Beautiful
#8 posted by NightFright on 2019/01/30 21:06:59
So it will work. Even if it's with some restrictions, main thing is it'll be possible!
Apologies
Sorry I got it wrong. Thanks @mankrip for posting that. I've seen that post on ModDB but didn't read far enough down. That's great news.
FTEQW
From Spike:
FTEQW Revision 5397 CAN run that Quake1.5 mod, but you'll want to use fps_preset dp (or equivelent) to configure cvars in order to change from fte/standardish behaviours to dp-like behaviours
http://fte.triptohell.info/index.php?p=downloads
#11 posted by Scrama on 2019/01/31 07:31:20
Mod content doesn't fit into quake style, and even doesn't fit into some alternative mod style, looks like pirate dress. Like uncountable number of all that "hi-end quake mod compilation"
Sorry if it hurts
#12 posted by anonymous user on 2019/01/31 13:32:11
The AD version will probably look like this:
screen shot
Maybe he can rename the mod to Arcane Brutality or something. That'd be awesome!
#13 posted by MrKilles on 2019/01/31 15:42:42
Yes the name is at large issue for many people I think.
At a time when many new players might be attracted to Quake following the notice its excellent mapping community is getting for various reasons it would certainly tend to mislead into thinking this is some sort of community improvement patch and than 1.0 is not worth revisiting...
#14 posted by MrKilles on 2019/01/31 15:44:17
Oh and this is not to shit on Bloodshot, I understand from what he says the naming was not done on purpose for this effect.
I Agree With #14
It was clearly not his intention to mislead people and the name was actually his second choice from what I recall.
Something to consider is that clearly the average, everyday gamer likes this sort of content. Maybe this will inspire other similar mods with more cohesive art direction.
I for one am going to start looking into Darkplaces extensions just to educate myself a bit more. Since this mod is popular and the "unannounced" Killpixel game uses the same tech.
Very Nice
#16 posted by Icaro on 2019/01/31 23:33:21
downloaded and I'm now playing! but in my opinion, Darkplaces is still not fluid like Quakespasm or MarkV!
#17 posted by the great cornholio on 2019/02/01 01:25:00
those colored lights are beautiful, are they done with WinMHcolour or are manually create? They look manually created
Something Like This Was Needed...
#18 posted by 8657 on 2019/02/01 10:08:47
as much as AD was. I think I've mentioned this before (I'll have to check), but the true potential of the Quake engine has yet to be tapped. While AD did an excellent job with pushing map creation beyond the basics and small steps taken, the actual gameplay hasn't been tooled beyond new weapons and enemies outside of TCs (I miss those.
This is the first real step taken in the direction of tightening the gameplay for a more fluid experience. Fair warning though: trying to complete Episode 1 in Nightmare with the new setup shows a couple of its limitations. Right away, the gunplay felt heavy, for lack of a better term. I was prone to miss my shots more than usual thanks to the centering of the gun changing due to its positioning. But thankfully you're able to change between the more modern scheme and the original classic setup in the mod menu.
Speaking of that, entering a new game gives you instructions unique to Q15 by pressing either the Home or Backspace buttons. While the Backspace button takes you to a Lvl Select screen, the Home buttons goes to the mod menu where you can tweak things as you please.
I'll put down more of my thoughts later, but for now this question'll be left to chew on in answer to #11:
What is Quake?
#19 posted by MrKilles on 2019/02/01 10:25:10
"Something to consider is that clearly the average, everyday gamer likes this sort of content."
This is why the quake 1.5 name is all the worse.
...
What's this awful bleeting in #18 ?
Fighting Looks Brutal
#20 posted by Ankh on 2019/02/01 10:35:39
this will be good, waiting for the version which can be played outside darkplaces engine
#21 posted by Kinn on 2019/02/01 10:43:23
This is the first real step taken in the direction of tightening the gameplay for a more fluid experience
What the f....
How is quake not fluid? It's just about the simplest and most immediate FPS in existence.
I Meant Even More Fluid
#22 posted by 8657 on 2019/02/01 11:06:38
I forgot to add that when saying that and giving the example of how ogres and the rocket launcher work in Q15 compared to the original. In regular Quake, the Rocket Launcher feels like a more accurate Grenade Launcher. It kills Ogres in two hits while replacing all the rockets you fired as if it never fired. In Q15, rockets become more precious as the increased strength of the Rocket Launcher can OHKO an Ogre without dropping rocket ammo. You're forced to change weapons (I've been going SG/SSG depending on how close I am) to get the ammo if you don't gibb them on the first hit.
Should have given an example to avoid that. It's on me.
Quake 1.5 Is Fluid
#23 posted by Spud on 2019/02/01 19:05:11
like late-night diarrhea after eating an entire bag of Doritos and all those delicious, horrible spices wreaking havoc on your digestive tract, except Q1.5 isn't delicious at all.
Is “fluid” The New Viral Word?
#24 posted by Icaro on 2019/02/03 11:19:21
Heh
#25 posted by Kinn on 2019/02/03 12:07:39
"Gamefeel" is the absolute worst.
The games scene is absolutely full of bollocks words that have never actually been defined, yet are used all the time by assorted commentators, and you just sort of have to nod along and say things like "Yeah, I agree, I guess this does have pretty cool gamefeel, but I do think you need to tighten up the graphics on Level 3. Ok, let's talk about the gunplay..."
First Impressions....
#26 posted by Shambler on 2019/02/03 16:30:29
#25
#27 posted by mfx on 2019/02/03 23:22:46
I agree, the newspeak concerning games is quite a thing now.
#28 posted by 8657 on 2019/02/04 00:23:45
I wasn't going with any bullshit terms when I used them. They were being used as I chose to use them. How the game feels and how the weapons are played with. They're actually pretty simple definitions I'm working with and not intended to be bullshit like how immersive it is or something like that.
Anyway, what's so wrong about this mod existing, especially as a Beta? It's not a final mod, and it's most certainly going to have improvements as time passes. As it is, it's a good mod as it is, and it will probably get better in the future.
Extra: Ever wanted to play with Q3 physics in a SP campaign?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6kkTwPTvHI
Extra: Ever Wanted To Play With Q3 Physics In A SP Campaign?
#29 posted by MrKilles on 2019/02/04 10:00:07
Ever wanted to guzzle your grandma's anal leaks ?
#30 posted by mh on 2019/02/04 17:12:26
Anyway, what's so wrong about this mod existing, especially as a Beta?
Absolutely nothing.
The fact that there's nothing wrong with it existing doesn't make it a good mod, however. Maybe that's because of it's current reliance on Darkplaces; maybe it's the Darkplaces-isms in what we've seen of it to date that cause it to seem a lot worse than it might actually be? Maybe if/when a QS version of it emerges, it might be worth re-evaluating it?
Because let's be honest - right now it doesn't look like much of anything that we haven't seen before. Darkplaces plus some shiny effects plus some replacement weapons plus some map touch-ups. Yeah, we've all seen that multiple times before.
So sure, it can exist, but it's not actually that wonderful, you know.
Let's Just Officially Call It "Brutal Bloom"
#31 posted by Kinn on 2019/02/04 17:44:59
And then maybe we can move past the daft "1.5" thing.
Honestly, "Brutal Bloom" tells you everything you need to know about this mod in two incredibly economical words.
Lol
#32 posted by ww on 2019/02/04 18:53:15
Ogres don't drop rockets if gibbed? Such fluidity, much gamefeel.
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