How would that even work? Can you delete other peoples' brushes? Or just your own? How would ctrl+z work? Serial may be best for mapping, multi user mapping seems neat, but could be a huge head ache in the long run. 

i imagine it'd function like minecraft. no undo, and yeah, you'd totally be able to grief other mappers.

of course, i'm a nice person and just assume that'd never happen. :P

anyway, just wishing out loud, really. 

Yeah I probably won't be able to get to it until Friday night at the earliest - I got stuck trying to solve some problems with kp_full.wad refusing to load and won't be able to work on it tonight. 

if that's okay with you Zwiffle?
This is a great idea.. there's pressure to work since you only have a day, and have to announce it here. It should be interesting to see what happens with it! 

 

so what's happening today? ericw, have you uploaded your changes somewhere yet? and zwiffle, are you still planning to have a go at it today? 

I could take a crack at it, but no rush. I have all weekend to futz around if eric still wants it. 

But I added a few little details. I put in a fuse box which you have to use to turn on the basement lights. Also added some background buildings, and started a bit of underground tunnel.

necros: those transparent windows look sweet! These kingpin textures are really impressive.

http://www.quaketastic.com/upload/files/misc/func_city_04-15-11.zip 

underground area looks like it could be cool. maybe the slime in my section should be replaced with water so you can swim around or something.

also, i'm planning on trying to build some stuff seperate and then i'll nab the map next week and paste the additions in and poke it into place. just throwing that out there... if anyone wants to try that too. that way you don't feel pressured to do something when you get the map, you can just reserve it when you feel comfortable to add something in.
just trying to keep options open. 

What's the policy on changing areas already in there? Or is it loose? 

i think a lot of it is down to being respectful of other's stuff but at the same time, i don't think every brush should be treated like it's glued into place.

let's put it this way-- the more brushes are in an area, the less it should change. if it's an empty building then feel free to move it around or whatever. if it's a room that's done, with doors, lights, etc etc, then add to it, or modify it slightly.

mapper discretion, really.

a rough example, take negke's original map. don't delete the core parts, but moving or deleting the outer wall is ok if you were to expand it.

but deleting one of the two buildings in the center to replace it with your own would be not cool.

dunno if any of that helps.

if all else fails: don't be a dick! :D 

maybe it would be better to be super strict about this?

"don't delete or change anything unless you originally put it there"

? 

I think your second last post sounds good, necros.

With sections like negke's which are more or less completed ideas, it makes sense to stick to making smaller changes - maybe changing where you enter/exit the area, tweaking details or weapons/monsters to balance the level. The only changes I made there were putting a different texture on the old exit door and stacking some boxes in front of it.

on the other hand, when you have areas that are only sketched out, I think a lot of the fun will be seeing how other people interpret and finish them.

btw: necros, you built the initial new area in an hour 0_0? Man, that's crazy! It looks really great. I spent 3-4 hours on the few little details I added. what editor are you using? 

i prefer the first method too. things will change as the map grows and adhering to strict rules will just get in the way.
besides, we're not assholes here (heh...) and if someone does do something dumb, we can just skip it. :P

it may have been a little longer than an hour, i wasn't keeping track or anything. neg's initial map is pretty inspiring.

i'm using sikkpin's qe3 (which is based off the original qeradiant code. similar in many ways to gtkr1.4. 

Keep in mind my map is supposed to be a backyard or back alley with a garages (one anyway) and garbarge dumbsters (imaginary). So the architecture behind the exit gates should be wide enough that a car fits through, a path to connect to a road nearby somewhere. This is what I would change first in necros' part. 

so what's the status today? did you make any changes zwiffle? or should i work off of eric's version? 

No I totally forgot with all the Portal 2 Potato Sack scam thing over the weekend. Sorry! I got swept up in Portal 2 20-minutes-early fever =/ 

With QExpo 11 on the way, I was thinking of doing a weekly turtle map event with the goal of releasing very quick Quake episodes for the QExpo. I don't know how feasible that is or who all is interested - it is a lot of work with not a lot of time. Not counting this week (starting this upcoming Saturday) we'll have 8 weeks until QExpo on June 19th. So of course the maps don't have to be full, normal releases, but a nice bunch of map packs sounds feasible.

Who all is interested? 

if will be a speedmap event I will join, is the least I can give after almost 2 years of lazy :( 

in doing a kind of speedmap episode.
definitely not TM quality.

I'll have something for qexpo, I think, anyway 

...be able to finish 1 turtle map in 8 weeks :) 

Then you're doing it wrong D:< RAARGJ RAARGH ARARARGHHHH


Better than nothing. :) 

 

so I could map quickly (instead of learning Radiant), and have been messing with the Rubicon2 set - I don't know if I can make a speedmap with this, I get too caught up in details like, immediately!