Usually, I avoid this kind of thing (because I don't like DP too much) but after watching ArrrCee play through it I was interested and tried it. It's a fun mod and I am looking forward to playing the newer added levels. I am not a fan of the name of the mod - I think that's the biggest crime but with 4700+ downloads - you cannot deny the appeal.

It's going to be fun reading all the Quakedad hate on this one. <grabbing popcorn> 

Where Do I Find The Weapon Animation Frames For The Reloading? [EDIT]
Posted by kaisersozeh on 2019/01/28 13:58:02
Searched high and low for an answer but can only see the firing animation, not the reload animation - using qme. I'm missing something and the links to the tutorial pages I need are dead.
I want to separate the sequence into two functions - firing on a key down, reloading and ejecting a cartridge/shell/battery on the key up.
tia! 

I gather from the warm and friendly welcome i got that perhaps I wasn't clear enough - to clarify, I can't find the frames used for the subsequent reload/cock animation, at least with qme. I am writing a mod for use with a wii, so it's an actual trigger button - as above I'd like to separate off the later animation and instigate it using the trigger button-off condition. thanks 

Quake does not have reload animations. Which game/mod are you asking us to help you with? 

The shotgun, for example, has an animation that shows the gun firing and the recoil over several frames. Then the gun is recocked, or reloaded, with the barrel appearing in various off angles for a couple of frames, before returning to the original position. it is these frames that do not appear in QME.
I'm not entirely sure what else to call it if not reloading-recock?
thanks for your patience appreciate the reply 

Quake's shotgun model does not have any reload/cock animation.

Are you referring to a new weapon model that you or someone else has created, that we do not know about? 

this is the standard, off the shelf quake shotgun.
I'm not entirely sure the frames are described in the actual mdl.
When you fire your shotgun, there is an animation of the recoil - but then something else happens, in sync with the gun cocking sound towards the end of the shotgun wav file. You could call this cocking or reloading. Several frames where the gun could not be described as in a firing position.
OK. Rocket. You fire your rocket, where are the frames that describe happens between your rocket flying off and you being ready to fire another rocket? 

If anyone has a working link to a tutorial or a bit of info regarding this , i would be much obliged. 

https://i.imgur.com/2g2ehp0.png

quake's shotgun only has 7 frames.

It fires, recoils up and back a bit, then goes back to the rest pose. There is literally nothing in there that would make it appear to cock or reload.

Gonna ask a dumb question here...

Are you talking about a game called "Quake" or are you actually, in fact, talking about a different game, called "Quake 2" ?

Quake 2 has what you describe. 

Does generally suffer from a lack of cock frames. 

i mean, it's not hard to understand what the guy is asking. The weapon resets from a muzzleflash frame back to an idle frame, and the reset takes several frames.

if you look at the quakec, probably weapons.qc, you can see how the frames are sequenced. Aside from those frames, you might also be seeing interpolation if you use an engine with that feature enabled. 

https://www.quaddicted.com/reviews/screenshots/anevilnew.jpg 

As discussed, the frames I am looking for do not appear in the animation via QME. Searching for the rocket animation in QME will also show a similar animation of fire appearing at the end of the weapon and the weapon recoiling. It does not show you the animation reloading the rocket or moving it back into position. Clearly, these frames occur. Specifically, immediately following the firing rocket animation, and preceding the firing position for the next rocket. These are the frames i am looking for. 

 

Yes, is it hard to understand exactly what the issue is here.

He is talking about some frames which he claims can not be seen in QME.

it is these frames that do not appear in QME

From his desription, it really does sound like he's looking for what we'd call "reload" or "cock" frames. 

Got any mapping going on recently? 

Even though you say this is standard quake, I am 100% convinced you are talking about non-standard weapon models, NOT the weapon models in original quake, ESPECIALLY when you say:

It does not show you the animation reloading the rocket

You are describing models from a mod. Which mod is it? It ain't standard quake.

It sounds like you are viewing in QME the standard quake models, which is why you are not seeing the special frames from the non-standard weapon models. 

Metlslime attached a jpeg that showed a q1 shotgun in a position that is not described in your screengrab of QME.
When you, yes you, personally, fire a rocket in quake, using a standard engine. What happens between you firing the rocket, and you being ready to fire another rocket?
Would you describe that as a reloading animation?
If you don't know the answer, that's fine, but can you be less smug about it, it's intimidating enough without you swinging your ego around?
thanks 

I have a couple of questions in order to get to the bottom of this problem.

What was the source of your version of quake? Was it Steam, GOG, CD, floppy disk?

What is the command line you're using to run quake?

What files are in your ID1 directory? 

It's a standard NQ engine with a few extra bits, no interpolating - I am looking for those reset frames. It's in the animation macros but they're a little dense and i can't find links to tutorials that aren't dead. It isn't as simple as it looks! thanks. 

If you don't know the answer, that's fine, but can you be less smug about it, it's intimidating enough without you swinging your ego around?
thanks

Now you're just being silly.

I think there's someone here who hasn't got a clue what's going on, but it ain't me.

I know quake like the back of my hand. You are NOT describing weapon models that came from the original quake, not matter how many time you say you are, you are NOT. You are describing weaponmodels that are coming off some 3rd-party mod. You are viewing the WRONG models in QME. That is why you are not seeing the right frames!

Just tell us what mod you are using!!!!!!! 

This is something I've seen across my entire experience of playing quake1 - it's not the source at issue. But TO nrest your mind everything is standard NQ, except for some networking wii end controller stuff and gx rendering.
In short, qme will display the firing animation, showing the flash and recoil of the weapon.
However, further to this, between one shot and another, there is a sequence of frames not shown with the firing animation in qme, typically showing the rocket or shotgun in perpendicular angles as you realod it and return to firing position.
it is these frames that I am looking for. 

It's time for videocap. Can you get something like fraps and show us a few seconds of your animation?
Please, I'm really intrigued 

Here is a video showing all quake weapons. They don't have reload or cock animation, they just go back a little to represent that a bullet/rocket has left the barrel. And you can see all these frames are is QME:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vCQoNIL2a08 

*And you can see all these frames in QME