From the depths choadliness. Just tried the demo briefly. It is more Gothic 3/4 than Gothic3/4. It's bloody identical except a little bit prettier and a lot murkier. Hmmm. I like what happens if you try to go out to see at the start.

One thing I really liked about G3 was the 3 very distinct areas, and the 3 distinct races, especially the Orcs. Not sure if Risen is going to deliver in that way?? 

This was mentioned a while back in this thread, and after trying the demo, I ponied up the $20 for the full version, and got around to finishing it last night.

This is certainly one of the best (and maybe THE best) puzzle game I've ever played. It has great depth and fun from simple gameplay mechanics, an excellent variety of puzzles and thinking challenges, humor, emotion, fantastic sound and music, and one of the coolest art styles I've seen in a while.

Some parts took me a bit of pondering to get through, but I managed to beat the whole thing with no hints and no online poking about, and I'm mildly proud of that, because parts of it were pretty challenging.

If anyone is on the fence on this after trying the demo, the full game is better, and I highly recommend it.

http://machinarium.net/demo/ 

Yep, it's great. 

 

I had to use a walkthrough to get through the demo, although that is partly because I didn't know the game mechanics.

Lovely style, but puzzle games leave me cold. 

Risen, no the game area is smaller than Gothic 3, but it's alot more focused, there's always stuff to do. It's the only thing Gothic 3 has over it really. 

So, yay or nay? The game is apparently great, but how is the editor? Are we likely to see a fuckton of usermade highquality content for DAO as there was for NWN? 

I'm on the fence about it, only because there's a sales pitch for DLC built into the game universe itself, which leaves kind of an off-putting taste in my mouth...

I hope that's just sort of fucked up, and not actually showing "the future of marketing!" or some shit. :(

Also: http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2009/11/6/ 

Uhuh. Exactly more Painkiller, no more and no less.

The soul collecting / demon mechanism still rocks though. 

I've sank about 8 hours into it so far

+ No frills action rpg, run around and kill hordes of stuff, pick up loot, carry on.

+ The dog/cat companion is great, he helps you kill stuff and you can load him up with items to run off and sell for you so you can carry on killing things and taking their stuff(tm).

+ Meaty spells and abilities, everything feels very powerful, when you shoot beams of fire at people you can feel it burning them =)

- Story is quite dull, no real interest in it for me.

- Quests feel tacked on as an afterthought, usually I pick them up and forget about them, then when I get a "quest complete" message im pleasantly surprised :)

- The game is starting a feel like a bit of an xp grind. The motivation for going out and clearing a dungeon is to get xp and loot, and thats about it. There are no real high end goals beyond that. Perhaps if you could collect some sort of tokens from rare enemies to buy better gear it would be an added incentive to carry on playing. But as it stands its quite shallow in the end.

- No multiplayer/online play. Aparently they are making a free-to-play MMO which could work out very nicely, but I do notice the absence of multiplayer here.

If you liked Diablo / Titan Quest / etc.. you will probably love this :) its good fun and you cant go wrong for this budget price! 

OK, I broke down and bought this yesterday and played for a few hours. Verdict: if you liked Baldur's Gate and Neverwinter Nights, you need to get this NOW. 

EVERYONE STOP TEMPTING ME YOU FUCKERS

Because I CAN'T get it now, I don't have enough time to get another epic, massive RPG. I have too many games to beat as it is. I have too much stuff to do. I just don't have the god damn time for an awesome BioWare RPG. SO GET OUT OF MY HEAD AND STOP TEMPTING ME YOU GOD DAMN SUCCUBI OF VIDEOGAMES 

 

7u 

Why does he tease me so? =) 

I don't get it, I was looking at some benchmarks, and with my current CPU (an old 2,4 Ghz E6600) and a 5870, the benchmarks say Dragon Age is supposed to be heavily CPU-bound and run at ~26 fps. Thing is, 5870 is retardedly strong and MY gpu is an old 8800gts, yet my computer runs the game at 30+ fps at 1680x1050 everything on HIGH, I am yet to see a single slowdown anywhere. This was a really pleasant surprise.

On a sidenote, I am 8h 44min into the game and I am merely at 9% complete. And I am not even doing EVERY quest (I am going to leave that for the 2nd playthrough). Really puts into perspective the fucking ripofs the game market is full of, where a game is being sold for 60euro and the entire fucking thing lasts for like 8-10 hours total. 

your comments bode well for me. i've been thinking of picking this up lately, but i've heard some goofy stuff about it like how DLC is built into the game itself such that NPCs will actually tell you to go buy DLC so you can do their quest or something.

can you put down some more comments when you've got furthur in please? :) 

I've heard some complaints that a few NPCs kind of "break immersion" by suggesting you obtain "premium content" to continue. I wouldn't know, I got the Deluxe version which already includes all the DLC. Deluxe edition was a mere 5 euro more than the bare game on STEAM and the 2 included quest areas offer roughly 4 hours worth of content, so it was a no-brainer. 

Really puts into perspective the fucking ripofs the game market is full of, where a game is being sold for 60euro and the entire fucking thing lasts for like 8-10 hours total.

If a game is worth it's money or not is hardly price divided by play time! Any potential rip-off factor has far more to do with the vast majority of games being uninteresting dribble :P 

Anyone playing League of Legends? (dota clone by the people who made dota. 'tis good fun. and free. kinda.) 

have huge playtimes. Partly because of replay value, of course. 

funny how people complain about playtime, when Quake was released and people made the quake done quick videos, no-one complained about price/playtime then =)

I do think that MW2 is overpriced, but not because its short, because its more expensive than everything else :) Its an obvious moneygrab by the publisher.

I've not played it yet, but if its anything like modern warfare 1 it will be fantastic, MW1 is also very short, but I've replayed it more times than I've replayed half-life 2 because its just so damn fun.

Also, I like commas, a lot! 

For me, if I get 6-8 hours out of a game and those hours are fun, I got my money's worth. I don't want 40-80 hour epic conquests anymore - I don't have the time. :)

And it's just not feasible these days, honestly. Content takes too long to create and unless you're going to do a sandbox game it's very difficult to create endless reams of content like in the old days without crunching for years on end. 

And it's just not feasible these days, honestly.

Yet, somehow, Bioware and Bethesda seem to be able to do this consistently ;) 

It took me a month to first play through Quake. I had to look up and ask about both bosses. Probably around 20-30 hours in total.