That looks so good I don't even mind the dumb phong shader choice. 

...but do I have to have all those messages on the screen and all those 'buddies' getting in the way. I just want to kill things, I don't need to be clever about it! 

Those hints can be disabled, they're meant to be help for beginners. Some people do leave them on though, because it's a clearer cue that something happened to your teammates than the sounds/other HUD indicators. 

...well that's me sold then :)

Axe looks well brutal. Incendiary shotgun looks good for lighting up Zombies for others to shoot. 

Yeah, the melee stuff looks cooler than I was expecting. And, yes, incendiary shotgun plz! 

You can't play L4D without buddies, be they real people or bots. Any random special infected is capable of incapacitating you, and someone needs to be there to free you.

The 2 new infected look good, they will stop people stacking up in corners when a swarm comes. 

Or does the player kill a special with a single hit from a frying pan? 

Melee kill special infected with on hit except for witch and tank. 

I can imagine how this will affect my Versus experience. 

Actually in an interview they said that will probably be tweaked. Killing the charger with one frying pan hit looks weird. 

And they might change the rules based on how you're playing. Players vs Players could never have 1 hit kills but Players vs AI might... 

are awesome! 

Hey, they can be. As long as it's made clear what's happening to the player. 

Boomers die from 1 bullet no matter what mode you're in. The charger is pretty big looking to go instantly into ragdoll after being hit by a frying pan. 

Is great stuff! =)

Been playing loads recently, and this mod really doe's turn the game into something special.

+ Tons more guns, ammo types, armours and items

+ Tons of new mutants (some are scary as hell)

+ Fixed campaign levels that let you keep on playing after you "complete" the game.

+ Numerous tweaks and fixes all over the place, which make the game better and much more atmospheric.

Give it a whirl if you have not tried it! It's still bastard hard in some places, but its nice to play a game that genuinely challenges you for a change =) 

i LOVE stalker but the god damn thing never runs for long before crashing. it's just evil. :( 

the mod that made me die at the first few dog thingies at the first armor place because i fired about 50 shots at them and only got 3 down because they were so tough and seemed to respawn? I think it was. Never even started it again after that experience. 

I didn't find OL much harder than vanilla Stalker to be honest. Sure you're not confusing it with the Invasion mod or some other of those? 

Looks like a well achieved Q3 porting ... At least very evil-ish and satanic !!! Hell, it sounds frightening !

http://www.darksalvation.com/trailer.html 

Isn't that the one with the appalling animations/models/level design? 

what struck me as funny is that the trailer has some clips with some seriously BAD particle effects. i can't even tell what it is supposed to be. you see these big blobs spawn in without fading or growing-- they just pop in, fly upward and then pop out (again, no fading or anything, just *pop*). if they couldn't even be assed to get rid of that or at least make it look 50% less shitty, what does that say about the quality of the rest of the pack? :P 

I like the textures.... And it's single player quake3, right? That hasn't been attempted as far as I know since... The Dark Conjunction (shudder). 

Yes, they smell bad and are dirty and since they're shown in the promo video they're shitty public emissions.

Looks like a design weak team - if particle fx are weak then don't use them. Q3 has a very nice shader system that could replace all those particle attempts with much nicer looking stuff.

Although they also have one shifter texture in there that's just round red circles. 

 

Who wants game??