 Glassy
#226 posted by mjb on 2016/08/09 13:20:04
In the apsp2.wad packaged with the map jam 7 bundle, there is a texture called *glass01
Used in combination with the window creation instructions also bundled should help you get somewhere!
 @204
#227 posted by distrans on 2016/08/09 15:31:28
Quality lighting in that shot, perhaps just need a few more vertices to really show it off.
 Bleh...
#228 posted by distrans on 2016/08/09 15:32:12
...second shot
 #226
#229 posted by NewHouse on 2016/08/09 16:25:35
I will give it another shot, maybe this time it works without this weird rendering / z-fighting issue.
 Curved Pipes And TrenchBroom 2
#230 posted by mjb on 2016/08/09 16:33:17
Is it possible? I have to be missing something.
Following CGZ's curve guide I can get all the way until this point:
"Next up, I stretched that bit out, so it was long enough to reach the "corner" of the curve I was going to make, and skewed it so the start of it was flush with the end of the pipe I already had"
The problem I am facing is the Skewing part. I don't think TB2 has this operation other than vertex editing. I tried to manipulate vertices but it just got into a cluster soup.
Any insights on this or a step by step to help with these issues when considering TrenchBroom 2 as the editor?
Otherwise, I might just make right angled pipes ;)
 Z-fighting When Trying To Make Glass Brush
#231 posted by NewHouse on 2016/08/09 16:39:44
If I create one brush and give it texture *glass01 then I create another brush and give it skip texture like in that windows-test.map example. I need to combine them in a same space that they are equal to one another.
As an result I get z-fighting. Is the problem in my compiler how it handles skip textures? I Ealier pointed out this "skip" texture subject, but this time it might be an actual purpose on creating glass effect, right?
 #230
#232 posted by NewHouse on 2016/08/09 16:42:49
Whenever there is complicated tasks in brush geometry I personally use J.A.C.K for those, less headache*
 Brush Tool
#233 posted by mjb on 2016/08/09 16:47:33
Thanks NewHouse,
I found that the Brush Tool in TB2 can help with my issue. I can create a brush by selecting all 4 corners of both ends of the pipe sections, this properly creates the links and makes a pipe corner. Still any other methods people use would be appreciated!
#234 posted by anonymous user on 2016/08/09 16:52:51
Are you using these guides for you curves?
http://www.quaketerminus.com/hosted/happymaps/curv_tut.htm
In TB2 you can also use that other "grid" view when working on vertices, I assume you're using two windowed interface option (3d camera/ top down view)?
 #234
#235 posted by mjb on 2016/08/09 17:01:32
Yes, I am using that guide in particular.
I generally just use the 3D camera only, but for this tutorial I am using the 2d view split. I was using the grid view that would match the tutorials. Editing vertices still just causes a complete mess, if I could skew the brushes I would be golden.
 Call Me Crazy
#236 posted by NewHouse on 2016/08/09 17:05:29
I might sound crazy but I actually rotate brushes in TB2, then I place it almost in place I want it to be.
Edit -> snap vertices to integer. Then slowly matching it better on grid. I you use snap vertices to grid, remember adjust your current grid view to something you want your brush's vertices to snap.. if remember right.
I do this because sometimes it is hard to tell how much space some of the pieces actually needs, so I can freely resize whenever I need to. As long as they eventually are in grid then everything is fine.
Thought I do prefer angles like: 22.5, 45, 45+22.5 etc so they should be in the end in in grid flawlessly. Reason why I use rotate tool was, because it didn't calculated x and y scale for texture and looked stretched imo. But after rotating and then carefully snapping it to right points, it was in right scale in texture-wise yet in world grid.
In some cases.. for example kind of cylinder.. you can use that combine brushes by using that Edit -> CSG -> Convex Merge. For curves I haven't used Subtract or Intersect yet, so I can't recall whether or not it handles those texture scales or not.
#237 posted by Rick on 2016/08/09 18:28:01
I just use simple rise/run ratios. Mostly 1:1, 2:1, 3:1, etc, with some 2:3 in places. Very easy to keep on grid and only a few texture scales to remember.
 Diddo Rise/run
#238 posted by Qmaster on 2016/08/09 18:53:52
Does TB2 have skew though?
 Things Askew
#239 posted by mjb on 2016/08/09 19:05:13
I don't think TB or TB2 has a skew feature as demonstrated in the curve tutorials.
 Bloughsburgh
#240 posted by NewHouse on 2016/08/09 19:17:14
How does that brush tool works even?
It has quite weird logic behind it and can't get hand of it at all. Is it demonstrated somewhere, documents or something?
 TB2 Help
#241 posted by mjb on 2016/08/09 19:31:14
In TB2, you can access the documentation through the help menu.
This is a very handy document to getting all you can out of the editor, including the brush tool. It is in the creating objects section
 Makes My Life A Bit Easier
#242 posted by NewHouse on 2016/08/09 19:40:03
Thx.
Now I can make pipes in TB*
 Skewing
Is not supported in TB2. It's on my todo list. But first I need to get it more stable and do the final 2.0 release.
 Thanks
#244 posted by mjb on 2016/08/09 21:05:45
Great to hear from the one and only!
No problem, I'll make do with what I can, my map idea really doesn't require curved pipes anyway was more a curiosity.
Looking forward to future releases!
#245 posted by skacky on 2016/08/09 21:51:08
It's very much possible to make bending pipes in TB2 and honestly very easy. It's even possible to do that in TB1 with no 2D views.
I made this 45� bending pipe in TB2 as well. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Coj1cMqWcAAcH4Q.jpg:large
 Skacky
#246 posted by mjb on 2016/08/09 23:12:13
Cool to see,
Did you use vertex mode?
 Yes
#247 posted by skacky on 2016/08/10 00:27:45
 Slow Progress...
#248 posted by flatHead on 2016/08/10 00:30:27
Finally managed to draw out a layout for the whole level on paper; now starting to block out some new areas. If I can resist detailing and texturing for a while longer I may have a chance at having something playable by the deadline.
http://i.imgur.com/wLpNb7G.jpg
 Needs A Lot Of Thinking
#249 posted by NewHouse on 2016/08/10 01:26:37
 Looks Good
#250 posted by mjb on 2016/08/10 12:40:28
Good starting layout flatHead, keep it up!
Looks like an interesting map so far from that view NewHouse.
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