Well in any case, I'm glad to hear that Marcher 2: Even Marcherer is due out sometime this year. :)

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It is, in fact, a number of the works for Quake were done for resume enhancements/hopes of gaming jobs and other reasons beyond Quake.

I thought that would make an interesting angle for discussion.

Because more than a fair number of level designers here worked/did work/wanted to work professionally in that field.

It was a significant factor in the creation in a number of prominent works in the past --- where the creators were mapping "for Quake" but they were aiming "for something more".

Are those kinds of level designers with enhanced motivations more likely to try to *really showoff* their talent more than someone new and bored who downloaded a map editor? 

Also another sub-theme of the topic ...

Steam newbies or bored people who downloaded a map editor --- they don't really have any detailed knowledge of the history of Quake.

I mentioned FrikaC who is one of the most influential developers of all time -- since I perceive you to be rather new, he was the author of FrikBots and frikqcc Quake C compiler. He also went on to work in the games industry.

But more than that -- like I said, I perceive you to be rather new but it may or may not be the case ---

But if it is the case that you are new, and unfamiliar with the history of Quake or how external motivations may have shaped the game ...

Should conversation topics be dumbbed down to cater to your level of knowledge of the history of Quake?

So there is a question for you ... 

 

Not even locking his thread can stop the juggernaut that is Baker! 

It is, in fact, a number of the works for Quake were done for resume enhancements/hopes of gaming jobs and other reasons beyond Quake.

I thought that would make an interesting angle for discussion.

Are those kinds of level designers with enhanced motivations more likely to try to *really showoff* their talent more than someone new and bored who downloaded a map editor?

Isnt it a given that those with more experience or a larger end goal in mind, are going to put more effort into something than those who just recently downloaded a map editor?

It seems part of your goal here was to get me to speak of myself in a way that was self serving.

"Ive been mapping for *this long*"

"Ive played Quake for *this long*"

None of that even matters in this context. All the info one wants about Quake is freely available on the internet. Theres countless documentaries, threads on forums, and articles on Quake to fill in whatever type of Quake knowledge one seeks to acquire. 

meant to preview but accidentally posted. Honestly, though, thats probably for the better.

Long story short: Its obvious you havent played my maps or read the readmes attached to them. Meanwhile, I have MarkV pinned to my taskbar and read every post on the recent MarkV thread.

So, thanks man. Really appreciate the sense of comradery you have! 

"Its obvious you havent played my maps or read the readmes attached to them."

Before you think IM being self serving and trying to say "If you played them youd see my skillzzzzz brooo"

But a "You didnt have anything substantial to say about my mapping or me so its obvious you didnt even touch em" 

Are you high? OTP and Mukor both called you out for your bullshit. It's about time you'd shut the hell up. 

Also vintage otp. 

On the subject of vintage Baker:

http://celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=60370

Here he is in 2009 enjoying the economic crisis! 

Is it just me, or is this particular beef seeming quite vengeful? 

 

 

I have this mental shortlist of people on func who take things waaaaay too seriously.

This particular thread serves as both entertainment and re-affirmation of said list. 

1v1 ME BRO CMON 

Shambler is ex bief�ated. 

http://www.celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=61375&start=1567&end=1626

This is what you get when you don't keep the beef thread healthy and fresh. It starts leaking rotten beef juice all over the rest of the forum.

Specifically, Gunter vs. The World has taken over MarkV's thread... 

What do you know, there IS a Beef Thread!

Hmmm... "Gunter vs the World."

Sounds like my next Quake mod!

Nah, actually, FvF is enough. It could already be described as, "Gunter Hates You All And Wants You To Suffer Endless Humiliation."

So you should definitely all come play FvF! We have regular cooperative (Quest mode) games every Sunday night (some weeks more active than others) between 7-10 PM Central.

So come play!



Thennnn my abominable monsters will make you suffer! >:D

server: fvf.servequake.com
web: www.fvfonline.com 

If I felt shifting the backlash of my barrelgun in quake, I now was living in a country without a license! 

I didn't point out the fragile progs.dat compatibility landscape in a personal way.

i.e. I wasn't raising red flags because it was your idea.

I was raising red flags because I have seen too many "Hey guys, here is my better progs.dat! It can't load all the existing single player maps because I didn't think about the corner cases and assemble a set of those --- and it can't load save games because I didn't think about that either --- but nevermind these things I didn't think about that will slowly come to light over the course of the next 18 months due to my incompetence, look how great it is!!!".

I pointed out the landmines because I have seen that tragedy before. I simply posted information, because watching re-runs of tragedies makes me want to bang my head.

Karl Marx: "All the great events in history happen twice. The first time it is a tragedy. The second time it is a farce."

Why not type a few words to prevent that?

So I did.

It wasn't personal. I myself like watching train wrecks, but I don't like them to happen in Quake because I think Quake is something unusually special.

/Anyway, without this beer I would have defaulted to "ignore" but I am thinking "convey information" is better choice. DAMN THE TOPREDOS --- SUBMIT!! OH WAIT -- I C 

20: I hate you and I will fucking kill you.
30: I dislike you greatly and I will make sure you know it.
40: You suck and I don't have the time or energy to tell you why or argue it.

I'm thinking 50 will be something like...

I need a fucking nap. 

Guess who can dish it out but can't take it?

http://i.imgur.com/b6N1ZdN.png 

You're really hoping I respond, huh? Fine, you get this one reply, cherish it forever.

You seem to think the worst criticism of me is that I'm not as interested in Quake as I used to be, that I might have other things going on in my life which keep me from mapping as much as I'd like, or that I support/work with my friends in our projects. Maybe you're trying to hurt me by saying this? But I can assure you, not only do I not give a fuck about your opinion, I also am completely at peace with my creative output, abilities, and my friendships.

And "Dish it out"? Who's the one writing multiple paragraphs of bile and personal attacks complete with screenshots because I told Skacky 'large start maps suck', and 8k brushes he copy pasted around is not that impressive and better served in his actual gameplay map? Skacky's a big boy mapper, he can take mild criticism and design advice... and where's negke's hate for saying the same thing first?

And who's always the one at the center of all the fucking drama of the last several years? This community has gotten really good at just ignoring you and letting you be a dickwad to everyone who even slightly disagrees or says different from you. Much of the old crew simply just stopped posting, it wasn't worth it, and I'm surprised anyone new even bothers.

Why are you even going to my twitter anyway, except to find some more ways to harrass someone? You unfollowed me years ago and I've had you muted for quite awhile because you have nothing of value to say. Blocking just seemed fitting after your outburst, and how you've been treating others anyway. Seems like it was the right choice given your obsessiveness.

I seriously hope someday you find some joy in life beyond sowing hate and discontent and that fills whatever hole inside that makes you such a toxic shit to everyone around you. Trust me when I say this, I've been there in the old days of always wanting to cause chaos for my own entertainment... from experience you are only hurting yourself in the long run when eventually you find yourself surrounded only by the idiots and assholes who will tolerate you. But you've got some extra obsessive viciousness in you, and have spent way too much time rotting your brain on 4chan. You're going to need professional help to get better in life. For your sake, please get it. And for this community's sake? fuck off. 

The difference between you and negke is that negke didn't come here to accuse me of dickwaving as you put it so well, and even if negke dislikes Knave he doesn't stir shit.

I'm taking some time to create an imposing start map because I think this jam warrants it, given how many participants there are and how impressive Kell's style is, and you just come here and say shit like this? What did I even do to warrant such hostility? I don't even know why I fucking bother doing this if I'm going to get reactions like that. This is the last time I'm doing something like this. You can make a better start map for the next jam if you like.