pointing, laughing, feeling pity, again with the laughing... 

I thought only I carried the modder-haters pitchfork and optional torch around here. 

'twould be nice if you posted a short description... 

Damn you for making mods for people to enjoy. Damn you to hell.

Anyways, I have no one to play it with. :( 

It's just that your mods suck, they make a pig's arse of either Quake's perfectly good gameplay or it's perfectly adequate graphics or both, there's never any reason behind them other than self-congratulatory tinkering with source code, on the rare occasions you actually explain them it's clear they're designed to have no appeal to custom mappers, but you still expect those mappers to fall over each other begging to map for your mods...

...oh...

...yeah you were right =) 

...Warhammer 40K FPS game, apparently released since last Friday. Anyone heard anything about it?? Obviously I'm interested as any sane GW enthusiast would be, but it does look somewhat crappy graphics-wise.

Searching for reviews, I've managed to find the least informative review EVAR:

http://videogames.iwantitcheap.com/details/11561/

My god that person sucks!!

Will keep searching. 

http://www.wizardsandwars.com/product_reviews_info.php?reviews_id=57&products_id=196
Another sales site with reviews solely to sell the game.

http://www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/pc/warhammer40000firewarrior/
Just a couple of scores from other reviews but at least they sound more like proper game reviews.

http://uk.special.reserve.co.uk/q_JL6893_warhammer_40000_fi.html
Another sales pitch.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00009W164/qid=1065687940/sr=1-2/ref=sr_1_2_2/026-7602595-5569220
And a more honest-sounding user review.

The impression I am starting to get is that diehard tabletop gamers will spooge frantically over it, while people who've actually played a PC game before will realise it's shite... 

Shambler, seen the full version. Sucks polarbear bollox. Ignore it.

Poor design, childish models and weapons, blurry textures, weak...eh, fek just ignore it.
Or try the demo at least to vomit a bit. 

...you should be a game reviewer! 

First of all, you collect elements to effect your stats. You can get as much as a 20% increase (I wonder if it should be higher) in attack speed, attack power, and defense, and a 30% increase in maximum HP. If you neglect your elements by not killing enemies or picking up the items, you can drop as low as 25% below.

Also, there's a whole new weapons set, which I'm pretty proud of. There's 9 weapons, including a flak cannon, air gun (not what you think), flame thrower, etc.
They can all be can be picked up like normal, and aren't simply randomly placed. There was a problem since there's only 6 weapon items placed in maps, and I needed 8, but I came up with a nice solution to spread it around. Since it's not random, every time you visit the same map, you'll encounter the same weapons. So the gameplay of a map isn't dependent on randomness.

There's also custom map rotation, so you can set up a maplist to randomly select what map to play next, or play custom maps in any particular order.

And, of course, there's frikbots to play against if you don't have human opponents.
(btw, the multiplayer bug is fixed if you use tomazquake's newest version, despite what the readme says).

I can post some screenshots, but that doesn't quite do the mod as much justice as actually playing it. I'm hoping you'll like the weapons if nothing else.

http://forums.inside3d.com/showflat.pl?Board=Inside3D&Number=15984&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5

BTW, I've been told by one person that the alt fire wasn't working for him. Hopefully y'all won't have that problem. 

I don't really have any interest in DM mods. Sorry. :( 

That's ok, RPG. :) 

but i played it anyway, you certainly do have a knack for weapons... they dont feel very quakey, but they definitely kick some ass 

I'm glad to hear that. 

...sorry but this really is just a mindless button slamming hackathon isn't it?? I know wrath posted some very vague ideas about combining attacks before but I haven't managed to get anything to work. Trying it on hard skill is ridiculous, it's like playing Reaperbots with everyone using Axes.

Come on, I know some of you played the demo so what the bollox is going on here?? 

I completed the whole game basically using mindless button mashing. I started to get some stuff near the end, but not much. I also played on Medium I think which made it obviously easier. 

Are you taking your time collecting enough gold to get yourself juiced up with new swords and shit? 

anyone know if there are still any copies of generations for quakeTWO still floating around? I know it got foxed, but it was really fun to play. It only had Q1 and Q2 characters, and a few converted maps from Quake, but it was great.

Also, anyone know any really good Q2 deathmatch modes? Including extra weapons preferably.

And, Shambler, I recall your comment with regards to enclave/rune, and rune ISNT a mashing fest, it is based on the direction you attack from. Well perhaps it is a mashing fest, but there is skill involved. 

Just a shame you have to use UED to edit for it... 

A lot of people like the Awakening mod for Q2. I haven't played it much but I think it's got more realistic weapons. One of Kona's maps had a couple extra weapons I liked and I think they were taken from some Commercial expansions. Not really sure though. 

Warth, this is just the demo. I'm playing it again to see if I really want the full game. But I've tried different weapons this time, to no avail.

RPG: Okay.

Tronyn: I know you are the Rune fanboy to end all fanboys, and yes I know about the directional attacks in Rune, similar thing in Enclave. But it still adds up to "ineffective" i.e. there is little to gain from any particular attack other than the direction it goes. 

anyone know if there are still any copies of generations for quakeTWO still floating around?

/M3 Pokes his head out... Nodz and quotez "I didn't do it, nobody saw me do it, you can't prove anything"

The map pak and genv98.exe weigh in at about 40 megs, I will get you a link when I get them uploaded...

/M3 creepz back into the darkness 

ok, so if I wanna join you pathetic imps on irc, beat you up and steal your lunch money - where would I direct my irc client for maximum satisfaction? 

EET EES TRUE!


irc.gamesnet.net works adequately too 

The main attraction for me is the quality of the levels. Also, I enjoy the occasional hack and slash. Gauntlet was fun.