Yet again I won't participate, but:

Why not make maps where enemies are purposefully stupid; infighting, attacking walls etc.

The challenge is to make it fun to play.

Whilst exploiting the 'AI' of Quake to make the enemies act dumb. er.

? 

1) Teleport 20 shamblers into a space around the player.
2) The player has a heart attack when this happens (good).
3) Immediately cause the shamblers to start infighting.
4) Wait 20 seconds.
5) The ceiling instantly smashes the player, doing 99999 damage.
6) ????
7) LOL!! 

I thought monsters of the same species couldn't infight. 

Ever seen two grunts fight? 

And Marksmen don't play thier alert sound on seeing the player either.

Also, I remember in CZG's Terra Thing where ten shamblers spawn in, get off one lightning bolt and then gib =D 

grunts are the only monsters that infight with themselves. the code goes something like:

if ( (self.classname != attacker.classname)
|| (self.classname == "monster_army" ) )

..followed by the foundtarget function 

The most pointless victory is the one where both sides are right.


:( 

No, in that case, each side gets an equal number of points. 

 

I am not interested for the simple reason that stuff like that is hard for me to do when speedmapping. I mean, I actually try to map in a very short time window (like 60-120 minutes) and there is no time for monster tricks/perfection etc. I rather spent my time on getting better with the brushwork. 

Crappy AI is already a feature and not a speedmapping theme ;)

How about no monsters? That should free everyone up for brushwork... 

 

just entities?

func_walls....
:D 

you gotta have one brush for it to compile. I wonder can that be deleted somehow. 

Might be a cool idea for making a 'The Cube' map out of loads of func_trains.

Mind you, I can also see that being the epitomy of tedium to play.

And imagine including respawning monsters in that as well. 

epitomy of tedium

Bend it like Beckham, alliterate like Beowulf 

It's a qoute, but I can't remember where from. 

Mind you, I can also see that being the epitomy of tedium to play.

I agree, unless it was fairly short.

Or, a better idea: make the interior of each room different and distinct. 

The main thing about the Cube film was the traps though, and I'm not sure how easy that'd be to implement, as well as figuring the route out and the change intervals of the rooms themselves.

Or it could be made along the lines of The Cube 2 - makes no sense, just plain stupid and badly planned. Maybe. 

And imagine including respawning monsters in that as well.

The first (and second) times I read that, I saw:

And imagine including respawning monsters in the walls! 

 

I have to admit it took me 2 evenings so it isn't a true speedmap.
What do I do with it now? It is just a small castle :P

http://quake_1.republika.pl/df2.jpg 

Or big ugly but fun. 

oh, wait. That isn't a typo, you really mean big ugly but fun, and not big, ugly butt fun. oh, well, some other time. 

It pretty much amounts to the same.

Drew, please map. Please!