measure of fun ;)

i'm not looking at each game objectively here, just saying one was more fun to play than the other. 

We aren't really talking about tech/performances/visuals, we are talking about pure gameplay, and that to me is always comparable.
It's important that we do compare games, because new games don't always have better gameplay. 

because new games don't always have better gameplay.

Exactly, and in fact in recent years this is especially true because people keep over-complicating things and trying to pack too much into one game.

Reminiscing about (and re-playing) classic games isn't just for the sake of nostalgia. I think to some extent people like myself are yearning for the simplicity and purity of the game mechanics found in those older titles. 

I agree with you, kinda...

In a way I think the fact I like HL1 really god IS due to nostalgia! I just think that HL1 reminds me of when I started really getting into shooters! I remember playing Quake2 on my P133/16Mb, and being pissed off cause the coloured light's wouldn't work because I had nee 3DFX card. Then playing HL1 - first off it was the first game with a software coloured lighting renderer! (and one of the last)
And second - I think the most classic moments of my gaming career came from that game! The intro sequence, "we've got hostiles", and all of the stuff with the big aliens in the desert towards the end. AND the part's with the "assassins" - soo atmospheric with the footsteps and glowing eyes! And also I seem to recall HL1 having more play time that its sequels - the game is a truie epic!

But I also agree - there were plenty insta-death moments - like Distrans's last map!
I remember many occasions where I would be quick saving with 5% health, to try and take out 3 soldiers with a pistol and 4 shotgun shells...

But hey - like you say - it is down to personal taste, and nostalgia! In short I love all the HL games, and I'm really looking forwards to EP3!!! :D 

Is what HL wanted to be, but wasn't. 

Is Quake 1.5 

the HL engine maybe... 

Yeah. 

like HL2 and Doom3 before the cds turn to dust :)

But KoToR has taken up most of my last few weekends. I only this game had real time combat, it would be almost perfect (actually and skippable cutscenes). 

you might like Mass Effect then. 

I find more Lovecraftian themes in HL1 than in Quake2 - Colour out of Space, Walls of Xyrix.

The tenticles are a very Lovecraft creature, and the Alien Grunt factory had a strong similar theme. 

And yeah, quake's take on lovecraft is ... highly interpretive. Pretty much some borrowed names and maybe a creature description or two, loosely followed. The Cthulu mythos wasn't really on anyone's mind, except Petersen who probably exerted that influence with the occasional "oh hey what about". Given quake's chaotic development, there was probably plenty of room for influence like that.

Quake is no more lovecraft than doom, but the important influences in both cases are more atmospheric/characteristic than literal. 

Q2 isn't the sequel to Q1 - basically. 

Quake was just the military code name for Shub's evil other-wordly hordes, why couldn't the same military, having vanquished Shubby, use that code name for the next earth-menace, the Strogg? 

Because that's a fairly large reach.

Quake2 had nothing to do with Quake1, whatsoever. 

 

vs Ron Perlman 

nuff said. 

excellent game, one thing star wars always has had is a well realised world and this exploits that fairly well. I could have done with less cutscenes and also less story/dialogue but ovrall its was very enjoyable. Even the turn based combat became tolerable :) 

and finished about half of it in one sitting I think. Definitely has flawed and repetitive gameplay but I still think it's great fun. So much atmosphere and so much polish, its pretty involving stuff so far (finished alpha labs and up to endor area). 

but on the PC version I couldn't get past the gatekeeper. Completed it on the xbox a couple of years earlier.... (?!) 

Careful. Saying that you enjoy Doom3 on this forum is likely to be met with a response not entirely unlike that which would be received by a fully gussied-up gay pride carnival queen who's just minced flamboyantly through the swing doors of an Old West rinky-dink piano cowboy saloon. 

you mean, an orgy? 

heh they wont find me without a flashlight :) 

a fully gussied-up gay pride carnival queen who's just minced flamboyantly through the swing doors of an Old West rinky-dink piano cowboy saloon who saunteringly pulls his brassiere up Mae West style while snarling, 'come and get it boys.'

Yeah, I could go full gay disco with the leather cap, leopard print muscle shirts, tight jeans and 'stache look, if it wasn't for the dick on dick action; the same reason I avoid porn with Double Penetration scenes in them. You know, at some point in the sloppy sex or when the girl between them wants to prove she can handle two dicks in her mouth they are bound to touch and the universe should explode but chillingly enough, it never does.