ok I can abuse the save/load system to reload the world whilst preserving the entity state of everything...

that may do for now :} 

It is an entity i place to avoid noclipping 2000 units over and over.
AD doesn't have it, i used the normal "info_player_start" there.

You'll see a warning of multiple start entities in the engine, usually the engine picks the first it finds to place the player. (or was it the last?eric?) 

Right - I have never managed to get region compile to work in netradiant, so I'd have to stick to using one info_player_start and keep moving it around with me, which would be a pain.

Meanwhile, I have stuck this in my config:

bind "F5" "echo Dev Reload...; wait; save devsave; wait; load devsave;"

Of course no entity changes can be viewed with this, but it works a charm for refreshing the world geometry and lighting, which will save me a bunch of pain already. 

Windows Defender is now detecting the latest QuakeSpasm as malware:

See: http://i.imgur.com/UfR6zS9.png

It detected it when I tried to run the version already on my computer, and then when I tried to download the engine again, it caught it again on the download. 

Lets move this project to github? 

^ 

This image shows the culprit file when it detected it on my existing installed version:

http://i.imgur.com/ogwJcHr.png

See that it flags the file quakelibopusfile-0.dll

I'm assuming it's a false positive, but it's stopping me from playing it right now :( 

delete your HDD, throw the screen out the window(just to be sure), and melt your HDDs with thermite(to be super sure). Thanks Sourceforge! 

Note that Windows Defender has only just started doing this - the version I had on my PC has been there for a couple of weeks with no problems. Dunno why Defender is sharting over it now :/ 

use tails. 

Windows Defender isn't detecting anything for me. I just updated the definitions now and am running the latest windows 10.

Would you mind uploading that dll somewhere, or the whole .zip that is being flagged? I'd be curious to see if it has been tampered with or is binary identical to what it should be. 

microsoft's virus scanner spuriously detecting false positives in software that uses technology that might be a competitor to their voip product? who'd have thought it!... 

Once they started this, they prepared their demise. In my view. 

Windows defender removes it so I don't have it to hand but the file that this link downloads has the "trojan" apparently:

https://sourceforge.net/projects/quakespasm/files/Windows/quakespasm-0.91.0_win64.zip/download 

Hey Guys,

Not to sound like a smug a$$hole, but I did mention problems with Sourceforge a month ago here and was treated poorly by Baker.

You should just move the hosting to GitHub Pages. 

Right now my bet is it's a false positive. Weird no one else is getting this. Windows 8.1 using up-to-date Defender. 

Well whether it's a false positive or not, Sourceforge has been caught red handed last year injecting malware into software they host. I wouldn't trust those guys anymore. 

wtf? 

Last year the Direct X version of Mark V was continually flagged as a trojan by Microsoft while 61 other file scanning services say it is not a trojan.

As a result, I now I distribute the Direct X version in a separate zip.

It's somewhere in the Mark V thread around post #732 

What Tamarisk is referring to is this: http://www.howtogeek.com/218764/warning-don%E2%80%99t-download-software-from-sourceforge-if-you-can-help-it/

Summary:

Developers must opt in to a new "DevShare" feature.

If you opt in, your project gets embedded in SourceForge's custom installer.

That custom installer may bring crapware along for the ride.

Important thing is that if the developer doesn't opt in, none of this happens.

Personally I think that Tamarisk is scaremongering a bit. 

Scaremongering eh? Did you even read that article mh.

While true that the DevShare is opt-in, SourceForge has been caught red handed doing other not so nice things. Repackaging "abandoned" projects for one. 

Anyway, I'm done with this thread until it goes back to the real purpose, to discuss Quakespasm. You know this is just typical of the BS online nowadays. Try to post some useful information and get some nitwit shooting you down. Have a nice day folks. 

Func_msgboard is home of critics. It's what makes this place high quality. Participants here are expected to be able to explain/prove what they say or defend their thought process.

If you want to say Sourceforge is messing with a .dll fine, but you better be prepared to back it up with evidence.

That's just high standards at work. 

Sourceforge has new owners, clam down...

Antivirus is a fucking laugh. 

"If you want to say Sourceforge is messing with a .dll fine, but you better be prepared to back it up with evidence."

^^ This.

I mean, seriously, dude .. YOU brought it up! Don't get pissy when someone asks you to prove it.