hmmmm, well rebuilding problem brush should do then... 

Thanks, I'll check the stuff this evening, thank you for your help.... I was afraid the problem was destructive...
Thanks again.. 

I've got your email and I've sent mine for the 3rd time, this time without the buzz word in the subject. 

Take a look in my Q1 ToolTips document in the Engine Problems section, you'll find it here: http://user.tninet.se/~xir870k 

Just ignore TOTAL_CHANNELS == MAX__CHANNELS. It shows up in lots of big maps with a buttload of flames and torches because of all the fire sounds. (see perssp2, rpgsp1, etc.)

When you reach the static entity limit, that's when you need to start worrying. :) 

Thanks, I know how to look for now... the final hall is quite big and numerous torches are used (at least 24 if I remember well).. if I add lava, monsters and buttons and doors, total sound number must be quite bigger than the game can support...
Just a precision, what is the TOTAL_CHANNELS maximum value allowed ??? 

I think it's 8. 

hmmm... does it mean that only 8 different sounds are allowed in one closed hall (for example), or does it mean that only 8 sounds are allowed in a full map ???
As I said previously, I've seen no effects during the game... So what should be the effects on sound "rending" during the game ??? 

It can't be in the entire map so I presume it means within audible range at any one spot. I forget now how "audible range" is defined in quake but I think it is a matter of a certain number of units distance from the source.

Probably during the games some of the sounds don't play but if it's just the 9th flame sound that cuts out your hardly likely to notice. 

So, if I understand correctly it really doesn't matter: only the 8 nearest sources can be heard, and the others are "switched-off"... Am I right ??? 

bit I'm not sure exactly how sound channels work or how quake prioritises monster sounds over ambient sounds for example. You might learn more from the QC spec
http://www.gamers.org/dEngine/quake/spec/quake-spec34/qc-built.htm 

1.5 meg size e-mail limit on my account. Previously, this has only effected the size I send out however, and not what I recieve. 

After a quick read, it seems to detailed only the basic C functions and not the entire engine architecture in itself... sound function can be found, channel max value is 8 for entities, and channel priority is not described (I didn't find the stuff...)
Anyway, thanks for the informations...
Bye 

It can't be the size; it's just four kb. I've now sent it a fourth time. Do you have another address I could try? 

it's funny... like three days later, i got the mail undelivrable message for the second email i sent you, HeadThump. your mail is funny. :D 

Did you get my e-mail regarding the HOM effect? Looking at the posts, lately there seems to a problem with e-mails. 

Does this email thingy work at all? Mike, yes I've got it and replied, trying again right now.

It's a conspiracy, I tells ya ... 

I have *never* noticed a sound problem while playing any map that exceeded total channels == maxchannels. 

I've discovered a second account I have under Alan643@msn.com instead of AlanR643@msn.com. It had a back log of two years worth of e-mail and a handful of legitimate mail from friends. Absolutely mind blowing. I had no idea it was there until I looked into my Window resources under Outpost and saw I saw the name. 

It does work. I e-mailed my main account. 

Fifth attempt here we go, this time to alan643 instead of alanr643. 

This is really raising my blood pressure exponentialy. I am noticing many of the design flows and eyestabbing aesthetics (grotesque in its cloy toyishness, like the Volkswagon Bug)of my msn client that I have learned to gloss over since I have had this account. I'm going to grab a beer and come back to this later. Anyone have any recommendations for free e-mail account services? 

it's the most popular thing around... 

This time directly from my MyRealBox account to alan643. 

A miracle!