that's one of my favorite games ever, btw. 

I never understood what was so great about this game, the premise was good, and at first it looked like it could be really nice, but then I feel like it didn't really deliver, it ended up pretty linear and fairly short.
Still, bonus points for space whales.
Looking forward to the sequel. 

well, the game wasn't perfect, but here were some of the things i liked about it: 1. the overall zelda-like gameplay and exploration and item collection and puzzle solving worked for me because i like zelda games. 2. the successful mingling of various game mechanics worked well, they put whatever mechanic in that they felt suited that section of the game, including stealth puzzles, photography/collection, space rail shooter gameplay, etc. 3. the art was really nice, all the designs were cool, the environments, the little robots, the security droids, etc. etc. 4. the characterizations were good, including writing and voice acting. 5. the gameplay implementation, i.e. level design, was very well done.

There were some complaints i could make about the game. Primarily: game's story was a very tired "evil government/aliens" scenario, which was so overplayed that i kept expecting to turn out to be reversed in some surprise plot twist (i.e. the government is actually good and the rebels are working for the true evil aliens or something) but it never happened. The name "beyond good and evil" was part of this expectation i guess, as the actual storyline did not get beyond "good and evil" -- it wallowed in it.

The length isn't a "good" point, but it also didn't bother me -- i'm an adult with a job and don't have tons of time to spend on a game, so i'd rather play a ten-hour game full of good stuff, than a 40-hour game with ten hours of good stuff and 30 hours of filler. However, i probably would have liked just ONE more dungeon, to improve the overall pacing of the game. 

Skip the gay and start at 1:45: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYiDxHykAB4&fmt=18 

"This video is no longer available due to a copyright claim by HDFILMS INC" 

http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/?p=1868

Still looks like a boring game though. 

yep, that's definately an FPS. 

did they strafe once in those scenes? 

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/34903.html

looks already better than SC2
and if they improve it basing on CoH gameplay it WILL BE FUCKING AWESOME

(yeah Im excited. loved both DoW and CoH - best RTS ever) 

I'm excited about DoW2. Not as much as I am about SC2, but still, I loved DoW, and I expect great things from Relic. Looks fantastic. 

I already had hopes up since that means star control 2 to me. Bah, kids these days... 

count me in. 

more like adolescent 

kebab lol 

What's adolescent? I agree that the industry needs to grow up but the last game referenced, DOW2, looked fine to me. Didn't see any large breasted chicks with swords or anything. 

I think it's Age of Conan you're looking for:
http://www.gametrailers.com/player/33901.html 

hope DoW2 gets tyranids. 

Yep, looks fantastic, I lost so many hours to both DoW and CoH so really looking forward to this.

Also, ffs make a new space hulk game! 

while we are on the subject of games workshop materials...

Make a WH40k war game like operation flashpoint! 

http://forums.tigsource.com/index.php?topic=1750.msg40599#msg40599

Fkn terrific little asteroid-aquarium-divide-and-conquer game with a quiet Defcon-like pace and tone. And one of the guys who worked on it is Borsato. :D 

... conquer 

http://www.omni-labs.com/projects.html 

windows executables

douche bags 

:) 

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