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Other PC Games Thread.
So with the film and music threads still going and being discussed... why don't we get some discussion going on something on topic to the board? What other games are you playing now?
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LOL @ #1782 
That is all. 
90 Minute Non-interactive Cutscenes... 
Personally I'm not an MGS fan because of the cutscenes and shit controls so I won't be playing MGS4, but this news just blew my mind. People sit through this shit?

http://kotaku.com/392923/mgs4-has-90+minute-cutscenes#viewcomments

discuss.

Personally I think it's absolutely absurd that the cutscenes in MGS are often substantially longer than the gameplay sections. In the first game (or at least Twin Snakes) the cutscenes near the start of the game we between 5 and 30 minutes long. 30 minutes is already an insanely long time to be watching a cutscene for, but 90? You have to be fucking kidding. The cutscenes are skippable, but if you do that you will miss all the story.

I wonder if Kojima thought of adding a shortened cutscene option for those who just want to play a game rather than sit through hours of his movie making wankery. Save and resume during cutscenes maybe? Can you imagine if you had 45 minutes to play a game and you chose MGS4 only for one of these cutscenes to start minutes into your session. God, that would just suck cock so bad.

Whatever Kojima might bring to the table with regard to innovations and whatnot in his games, he needs to go make a fucking movie and get it out of his system.

Idea: set up a 360 with a copy of CoD4 or GoW next to the PS3 and play a little... er, 90 minute chunk each time one of the cutscenes starts. I bet you finish MGS4 way later. You could probably play CoD4 and GoW in the time it takes to sit through just the MGS4 cutscenes. 
Wait A Sec 
90min overall, or a single scene of that length? o_0 Game is an interractive medium. Cutscenes of this length make no sense at all.
I guess he indeed makes a movie with some interractive sequenses :)
And I dont care for MGS or any stealth for that matter. yes

BTW I beated stalker clrear sky e3 demo leak, despite it crashing all the time and not letting you reload. I killed everyone (except the chopper) :) 
Pretty Predictable Really. 
Hideo Kojima openly admits to spending well over 90 minutes at a time masturbating to his own reflection in the mirror.

In an unrelated story, I have never had any desire to play - and I'm sure will never have any to desire to play - one of his games. 
 
The early Metal Gear games are pretty fun, you should give them a shot. 
 
snes ones? 
 
No, the 3D ones. .. I mean the ones on PS2. Metal Gear was alright until about Sons of Liberty. That's when the interminable conversations started over the codec and the long ass cut scenes started rolling. 
Bleh 
Decided to give STALKER another try recently. I am just at that early border with the Monolith guys I have to keep away from getting near. I killed them all, the mission said "wee, done" and now the mission seems frozen in "defend the border" state...
That "family rifle" has run away too.
And why on earth didn't they fix the PDA's diary so it at least displays read posts in white? The map, well, that would be advanced programming I guess...
I am using that 1.0000000006 patch. Is there something else I could do against such stupid logic/mission bugs? Some fixed mod maybe? 
Artice About Indie Games On Wii 
Far Cry 2 Trailer 
In game footage and shizzle, pretty cool despite the annoying Flash-ness: http://uplay.ubi.com/teaser/teaser.html

Never really been drawn to Afrikkkka as a gaming location but this does look good... 
Yawn 
from the 5 seconds worth of gameplay it looks like yet another delta call of medal ops: whatever 
Whatever To You Too. 
I liked Far Cry. 
Speeds 
I think it's meant to be quite open and sounds VERY different to super linear games like CoD in terms of the freedom you get to choose your strategy and do missions in whatever order you like. 
 
yeah, lets discuss games, not promo trailers 
Yeah 
So no more trailers (or screenshots of up and coming games) on the "Other PC Games" thread.

And if you do post a link, then please:- nobody talk a word about it.

(PS - Im looking forwards to Far Cry 2, The explosions look really smart, and I hope it's a bit like crysis but with an oppertunity to actually talk to NPCs!!! (that would be cool))

Ooops! Sorry SPEEDS 
Other Games 
Spore - WANT WANT WANT WANT
Left4Dead - WANT WANT WANT WA
Warhammer Online - WANT WANT WANT WA
Starcraft 2 - WANT WANT WANT
Human Head's New Game - WANT WANT WANT WANT
Mass Effect - WANT WANT WANT WA


Most of these are at least 3 1/2 WANTs, so they must be pretty good. (Score is out of 4 possible WANTs.) 
I Measure Desire In WANKs 
 
For Speeds 
Present for you, might be old:

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/34546.html 
More For Speeds 
http://www.shacknews.com/featuredarticle.x?id=880

Far Cry 2 != CoD4 or HL2. Maybe they will fail, maybe a lot of the stuff you hear people gushing about is marketting hyperbole or maybe it won't end up in the finished product for some reason, but you've got to admit that if you like games like Far Cry, Crysis and STALKER that Far Cry 2 has some promise. 
Far Cry 2 
Wasn't interested in Far Cry or Crysis, but Far Cry 2 has a lot of interesting things going for it. The main thing is the gameplay - very open ended within a living world offers some very very unique gameplay opportunities. I get the feeling strategy and recon are going to play a very big part of this game, possibly unlike any other FPS game. All the movies show the player setting fields on fire to cut off escape/reinforcement routes, laying traps, etc etc, which looks like a lot of fun.

I'm still a bit skeptical, but it looks like an immensely promising game right now. 
Great Free Fast Tank Action 
http://www.quanticode.com/zeroballistics/
Just played it a bit and damn was it fun. 
Ok Cool 
Im bought sold or whats the word.
I like open-world games 
Mleh 
ever since the Far Cry IP was handed to Ubisoft, it's been fairly shite - case in point: the abysmal Far Cry Instincts: Predator on the xbox and 360.

We've already had "Far Cry 2" - it was called Crysis. I'm not optimistic about this new game. 
Well... 
Crysis was friggin boring, even Far Cry 2 looks more interesting at this point to me.
But yeah, I'm not sold yet, Ubi touted the whole "open world" thing with Assassin's Creed too, and it didn't turn out so great. 
Beyond Good And Evil 
pretty nice stuff, probably 20% or so in (just finished black isle).

Bit too many cutscenes but really enjoying this. 
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