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Rick! You are the man! I got my map to work! 
 
Also Mukor, khreator,ericw every one here! much love and thank you for your patience! now i can finally start working on my first project! 
There Are Spaces In The Paths 
It's possible that TB cannot handle those properly. If that turns out to be the problem, please create a bug report. 
 
hey, i could run the qbsp.exe via command line but it doesn not incule the vis or light. Trenchbroom compiling still diesnt work. it just doesnt do anything. 
 
http://i.imgur.com/F6uZiZN.png

Here is a screenshot from my compiler and the paths where my qbsp vis and light are also the map im working on. i can run the qbsp via commandline but ofcourse it will not include any lights that i have added to my map. 
Yeah 
As I said, it's likely due to the spaces in the paths. 
Treat It Like 3 Compilers 
First run qbsp to compile the geometry and collisions.

Second run vis to compile the visibility calculations so the engine doesn't have to draw the whole map at once all the time.

Third run light to compile the lighting. 
 
Make a batch file in the maps folder and run it the same way as I explained for qbsp.exe

qbsp.exe mapname.map
light.exe mapname.bsp
vis.exe mapname.bsp

Right click in maps folder and choose new text document. Call it makebsp (or something). Copy and paste or type in those 3 lines above but change mapname to your map's name.

Save the file then change the extension from .txt to .bat, there will probably be a warning about changing it, but just okay it.

Use shift+right click to open the command window and type makebsp and hit enter. 
 
http://i.imgur.com/DlOQflZ.png

i created a textfile and wrote all that in it. then ran the command window with makebsp. opened the map in quake and it did not draw the light i had put in the map. 
Quick Question 
I remember that there is a way to turn every wall into white, maybe a cvar, but i cannot get to remember how, any idea? 
 
It didnt draw lighting because you have a leak in your map. 
 
Ahh, I built my map so that brushes dont overlap each other, should they overlap to prevent leaking? 
 
You should be able to do "File>Load Point File" in trenchbroom and head to the folder youre building your map in and find the .pts file with the same name as your map.

This creates a line on your map that will snake around the map and eventually point to your leak. You might have more than one leak, so you may have to load the point file after each compile until its solved. 
 
my trenchbroom only created a .map of my file and i dont have a .pts file anywhere. I ran the makebsp command line and it did not allow the usage of light and vis. 
 
 
my antivirus program was freakingout about vis and light XD now i have that also worked out! 
 
At least there is progress. Now you should only have normal mapping problems.

When you build a map out of brushes there is an "inside" and an "outside". The inside is the playing area where the light and monsters and player belong. Outside is the "void".

Think of the "void" as water and the inside of the map is like a submarine, where the air is. You must use brushes to make sure the inside is completely sealed from the outside so that the water will not "leak" in. 
Cool 
glad it worked out. I'm not sure what is causing the antivirus warning.

Ahh, I built my map so that brushes dont overlap each other, should they overlap to prevent leaking?
They don't need to overlap, the brushes that form the outer boundary just need to seal tight (they should be snapped to grid).

It didnt draw lighting because you have a leak in your map.
light.exe should work fine with leaking maps, it will take longer to compute lighting though, and run a lot slower in game. 
 
im really making good progress on my map and learning, i love how textures can be stretched, rotated and alligned in very fine detail. Triggers are pretty simple also (at the moment).
my map already has alot of lights and it and the compiling time is pretty high, about 10 mintes at the moment. is it normal to have such high compilation times? 
No 
I usually have about 43 seconds for light using ericw's multithreaded tyrlight.exe. Although, I do have an 8-core 3.4ghz processor. Qbsp takes forever at about 2min. Vis takes like 5-10min. Depends on your map size and whether or not you have a leak. 
No? 
Naite said compiling time is around 10mins, which is consistent with your 5-10min estimate for vis. 
10 Minutes A Long Time? 
There's no way to say for sure without knowing what kind of computer it is, what the map is like, and what is used to compile it.

I can build the same map on two different machines and compilers and it takes almost 40 minutes on one to about 3 minutes on the other.

So, it depends. 
 
The only certainty is that vis is usually a lot longer than bsp and light. 
 
Thanks Mugwump! Its good to know that vis takes a long time.

Im very inspired by the videos by Custom Gamer in youtube, where usually Daz talk about cool maps. Im very impressed by the maps made by sock and i was wonder how do i create coloured lights, fog and a skybox? 
 
ok, now i have a recursion on leaf 551. whats that all about? 
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