Keys are probably removed by the engine for DM. Didn't see anything in the QC.

You could do like I always wanted to do, and turn the grenade launcher into a key. Just make a wall with a hole, put a shootable func_button deep down inside. Only way to trigger it? Drop a grenade in there. Label it with a texture that features a screenshot of a grenade launcher or a grenade, so players get the drift (or a message works too, I guess).

Other than that, there is a Quake 1 arena mod that I think is actively developed. I think they might code DM keys in for you. 

Rocket launcher key? Long shaft (think Star Wars). Shoot down it, and blast radius hits shootable triggers on the side(s) of the terminal chamber. 

I remember that map from way back when. I just grabbed it to play for old times sake. 

Ah, too bad. Thanks for confirming it anyway! 

Haha. Yeah, too bad.
Except you can do it by removing the 2048 from both the key and the door.
/Newbies ... 

Here's a screenshot of EZQuake of someone holding the gold key and looking at the gold key door.

Of this thing that "can't be done".

ezQuake gold key + gold key door deathmatch on 

Thanks, Baker. I can get it working, too. But if he's not setting any flags...

By the way, the html for this thread is now 12.6 MB. Isn't that kind of absurd? 

I did ask him specifically what flags "he was using" and what flags "he wasn't using", hehe.

He said no flags, which is pretty bloody unlikely so who knows what's he doing .. even he doesn't know, that's for sure.

thread is now 12.6 MB -- Isn't that kind of absurd?

That's 12.6 MB of pure knowledge, my friend.

Use it wisely. Prosper. 

If all of this "pure knowledge" would be gathered in other format for example.. actual tutorials/techniques web page + clear images and screenshots of what everything actually does.

Simple ReadMe included in "somewhere" in game folders doesn't offer much information what all keys and features actually do and most of the mapper's time is spend on trying out things and failing. (in my case 90% of the time), because I'm bad at understanding notepads alone. That's reason why I constantly keep "making sure" I'm doing things in a right way and keep asking about scripting in here.. because there is no other forums as active as this.

I can only assume size will keep growing, and here is the one of the reasons why that keeps happening. 

Why do I suspect you are using TrenchBroom?

Because in older days, almost everyone used WorldCraft and WorldCraft had elite ++++ documentation. You could go from newbie to near-elite in a day, I kid you not.

Like http://www.quake-1.com/wc16a-tutorial/

When I see someone new using TrenchBroom, I keeping seeing newbies trying to carve trees and struggle with newbie 101 stuff like "can't make a teleporter" other non-sense that no WorldCraft user ever struggled with in the entire history of mapping.

/I'm just saying ... 

I think, to be honest, it's just because this stuff really isn't google friendly. Or just... friendly, at all. I've never seen that WorldCraft page before, and it's not for lack of trying. this site got me through a lot of my early struggles with the entity system, but to be honest I've forgotten how I found it myself.

Another issue is that TB's docs aren't really noob friendly. I mean, they're great if you're a noob for TB, but not for quake. Anything you could possibly want to know about mangling a once-beautiful brush into a mess of non-integer vertex points and warped textures is contained within the bounds of the TB docs, but the only consideration given to the entity properties window is a guide to the UI and how to get around it.

Personally I don't think it should be the responsibility of the editor to provide documentation for this sort of thing. Especially not in TB's case, where the list of games it supports is quite wide and its capability to load custom entity definitions means that it can never cover every possible question.

There's no real solution here really; unless we start editing the top of the topic to include links to a F.A.Q. or tutorials like the one you linked, everyone is basically stuck in an endless cycle of answering the same old questions again and again... 

With Pritchard on this.

Stuff like making a teleport is pretty univseral across all Quake editors. I think it's more like completely new mappers (Who never mapped before) are attracted to TB and because they are completely new they do not any of the basics whatsoever.

I learned a great deal of the basics from the bsp editor tutorials. Almost all of those tutorials are not specific to any editor and I don't think that should be TB's job at all.

But that link you posted Baker is very useful and like Pritchard I never came across that page! 

I see you got that one too.

What happened to me is I'm a hardcore singleplayer, and the level has only four vormits and a dancing data.
In all respeckt to the author andrew wyllis I can't help to see it as a deathmatch range.
Also the light is really bleached.

So I took up the stormannsgally idea to remap the level, inhibbit it with gallons of ferengi and cardassians, relight it and even make it bigger.

Sofar I haven't much luck, but after converting the enterprise from a doom2 level I found this one which threw me back in my chair.

As Spock said: what in heavens name is emotion? 

im about to show my skill level, but for the life of me can not figure out what im doing wrong.

Im getting "no spawn function" for func_details? im using "tyrutils-ericw-v0.15.8-win64" to compile and running my map, which uses Arcane Dimensions, with my AD shortcut through QuakeSpasm.

my understanding is that the error would mean im not using the right progs.dat/mod?

I reinstalled AD/redid the most recent patch and still nothing?

super confused, and extremely burntout on it. thanks in advance. let me know what info or logs i should share to help decipher this, as im still on the novice end of things.

it worked last compile and to the best of my knowledge not much has changed aside from new entities/trigger/targetnames. 

aaaaaand i solved it.

ive been having an issue with trenchbroom not saving new compile settings upon exiting. my tools had been set to a previous setup.

am i alone with that issue? 

Keys and sigils work in deathmatch. However, they do not respawn, so they can only be picked up and used once - and will be lost if the player dies before opening the door. Depending on your intentions, it may be safer to use buttons (possibly dressed up to look like a key or sigil). 

Keys fire their triggers when picked up, so you could make the key being picked up automatically open some invisible doors (clip) over the real doors. The real doors would just be regular doors, and that way you could make it so that once the key is collected it's as if everyone had it.

Alternatively, this seems to work from my brief testing when used on keys. That's a pretty direct way of solving the "don't respawn" issue. 

Would the sp respawn hack work on them in DM? 

Yes, I think so. 

Well, I tested in QS in DM mode so i'd think so. At least for netquake :/ 

A simple lift shaft, 96x96 units and 320 units high.

When I place a func_train in it the plateau seems to get stuck
at the last 64 units and returns.
Replaced it with a func_plat but it keeps stuck.
There's nothing to block it so I wonder what it causes.

I know the bouncing box is always square, no matter the player's direction.
The 96x96 units seems enough space for the player's 64x64 intend. 

Things like "can't make a teleporter" doesn't always mean that he actually don't know what functionalities use or keys, in my case it meant that if I place teleport destination poorly it teleports the player back to same teleport I just run into and not the destination. And most of the features I'm asking about is mod specific features I haven't used before and has only tiny print in some ReadMe files.

I haven't never seen that site you just linked, but it looks like 10 times more informative that what I have tried to use during these 3 years of mapping and practicing. 

Submit an issue plz. 

Ill see if i can reproduce it and ill write one up regardless tomorrow afternoon.