Can you use non-solid details like cables, wire mesh ceilings or thin func_illusionary pipes to make the space appear more claustrophobic that it actually is? 

Of course I can use, everything that would replace some hard geometry, because the gameplay is more important. And by claustrophobic spaces I mean actually 80pxl high & 64 wide or more, nothing crazy really. Though it would be nice to make something like "Beyond Belief" did in one map, where it felt like players head touched the ceiling but didn't get stuck.

I really well know that player doesn't move that smoothly if there is so much corners, doorways with details and so on. That's why I thought using clips would make it feel much smoother to move around, even in larger areas when it comes to moving near the walls if there is pillars, pipes or something a bit detailed work.

That clipping bug might be Trencbroom 2's fault, because it's still in beta. 

 

There is something with the placing entities, it seems like in the last stable version of TB1 everything is fine, but in TB2 some entities doesn't seem to appear exactly in those positions I placed them.

Thankfully there is couple transparent textures, and there is even invisible texture in wad "rmq_trans" hopefully that will work out* 

try setting no_item_offset 1 in worldspawn. 

 

Thank you very much*

More questions.. is there possible to set brushes be solid for player/enemies collission box detection, but you can shoot through it bullets/projectiles? For example if I use transparent chain-link fence textures in my brushes, it looks silly that enemies can't see you or you can't shoot or allow them shoot through it. It should only block/blow up physical projectiles like grenades/rockets... that might be too much to ask when starting to think about it. Unless it's possible to code into game's logic.

I know about coding a bit, so it shouldn't be to hard for me to understand quake's logic. But haven't been touching those files at all, dare I even look into that's a better question* 

It sure can be* I remember having no issues if I can recall when I used Quoth quake mod for example.. but I have to be sure about that first, it should be quite easy to test out. 

did the no_item_offset key work?

For fence-textured stuff, make this func_illusionary, and cover it later with clip brushes (those are brushes textured with the "clip" texture on ALL sides)

Should block player/monster movements and be still shot through. 

Thanks, what an nice idea - I will use it totally sooner or later* 

Yes it did.. clipping seems to work now.. I don't what I did work but now player moves smoothly near the iron bars.. what a relief ^^ 

Yes clipping works now.

I don't know what I did, but it works now and player moves smoothly near the iron bars.. what a relief ^^ 

Don't know if this counts as a mapping question, but there's no Netradiant/general editor thread from what I can see...

I want to set up Netradiant from xonotic's git as an alternative to use alongside TB (xaGe kindly suggested it to me a lifetime ago, but other things got in the way in the mean time). Compiling things from source and using git etc. always tends to make my brain melt and once again I'm running into trouble and need help.

I've consulted the compiling instructions, according to which I need the following on Linux:
environment:
27 - gcc >= version 3.1 (preferably)
28 - GNU make
29 - svn >= 1.1 (some build steps use svn)
30
31 dependencies:
32 - gtk+ >= 2.4.0 (requires glib, atk, pango, iconv, etc)
33 - gtkglext >= 1.0.0 (requires opengl)
34 - libxml2 >= 2.0.0
35 - zlib >= 1.2.0 (for archivezip module)
36 - libpng >= 1.2.0 (for imagepng module)

This was already a bit puzzling to me, as these things seem to have slightly different names when I try to look for them in Synaptic Package Manager, but I think I now have everything in that list installed (plus possibly a few extra things).

I've done git clone git://git.icculus.org/divverent/netradiant.git and went into the "netradiant" directory, but now when I run "make" I get this output:

checking that the build tools exist
Checking for /bin/sh (bash (or another shell))... found.
Checking for echo (coreutils)... found.
Checking for echo -n (coreutils)... found.
Checking for cat (coreutils)... found.
Checking for mkdir -p (coreutils)... found.
Checking for cp (coreutils)... found.
Checking for cp -r (coreutils)... found.
Checking for rm -f (coreutils)... found.
Checking for rm -f -r (coreutils)... found.
Checking for mv (coreutils)... found.
Checking for echo test | tee /dev/stderr (coreutils)... found.
Checking for sed (sed)... found.
Checking for find (findutils)... found.
Checking for diff (diff)... found.
Checking for cc (gcc)... found.
Checking for g++ (g++)... found.
Checking for ranlib (binutils)... found.
Checking for ar (binutils)... found.
Checking for pkg-config (pkg-config)... found.
Checking for unzip (unzip)... found.
Checking for git (git-core)... found.
Checking for svn (subversion)... found.
Checking for wget (wget)... found.
Checking for ldd (libc6)... found.
All required tools have been found!

checking that the dependencies exist
Checking for glib/gutils.h (libglib2.0-dev)... not found, please install it or set PKG_CONFIG_PATH right!
To see the failed commands, set DEPENDENCIES_CHECK=verbose
To proceed anyway, set DEPENDENCIES_CHECK=off
Checking for libxml/xpath.h (libxml2-dev)... not found, please install it or set PKG_CONFIG_PATH right!
To see the failed commands, set DEPENDENCIES_CHECK=verbose
To proceed anyway, set DEPENDENCIES_CHECK=off
Checking for png.h (libpng12-dev)... not found, please install it or set PKG_CONFIG_PATH right!
To see the failed commands, set DEPENDENCIES_CHECK=verbose
To proceed anyway, set DEPENDENCIES_CHECK=off
Checking for GL/gl.h (mesa-common-dev (or another OpenGL library))... not found, please install it or set PKG_CONFIG_PATH right!
To see the failed commands, set DEPENDENCIES_CHECK=verbose
To proceed anyway, set DEPENDENCIES_CHECK=off
Checking for gtk/gtkdialog.h (libgtk2.0-dev)... not found, please install it or set PKG_CONFIG_PATH right!
To see the failed commands, set DEPENDENCIES_CHECK=verbose
To proceed anyway, set DEPENDENCIES_CHECK=off
Checking for pango/pangoft2.h (libpango1.0-dev)... not found, please install it or set PKG_CONFIG_PATH right!
To see the failed commands, set DEPENDENCIES_CHECK=verbose
To proceed anyway, set DEPENDENCIES_CHECK=off
Checking for gtk/gtkglwidget.h (libgtkglext1-dev)... not found, please install it or set PKG_CONFIG_PATH right!
To see the failed commands, set DEPENDENCIES_CHECK=verbose
To proceed anyway, set DEPENDENCIES_CHECK=off
Checking for dlfcn.h (libc6-dev)... found and links.
Checking for zlib.h (zlib1g-dev)... found and links.
make: *** [dependencies-check] Error 1

I've checked again, and the "not found" items are things I have installed, so I'm stumped. Should I "set PKG_CONFIG_PATH right!"? What does that mean? 

Ok, so maybe I'm just an idiot and didn't install all the dependencies although I thought I had ...

Just installed a bunch more stuff, but "make" still gives me an error message. It's miles long and ends with
make: *** [contrib/bobtoolz/DPatch.o] Error 1


Anyone?

(I didn't post the full terminal output here since it's really, really long and I don't know which parts of it are relevant.) 

(I didn't post the full terminal output here since it's really, really long and I don't know which parts of it are relevant.)
use pastebin.com or similar :)

The make error 1 line doesn't tell anything useful, unfortunately. 

also I think this is the latest netradiant: https://gitlab.com/xonotic/netradiant

From looking at that readme, it looks like they've switched to CMake.

Yeah, the main trick is finding the debian package names.. which can take a bit of guesswork. e.g. the readme says you need GTK2, the corresponding debian package is "libgtk2.0-dev". Just use google when in doubt I guess. 

Oh, never used pastebin before. And the output seemed a lot longer the first time around; now there doesn't seem to be that much of it. Anyway, here it is: http://pastebin.com/mPHdbjDv 

From looking at that readme, it looks like they've switched to CMake.

Ah, so I've been following outdated instructions...

So I did cmake -H. -Bbuild -G "Unix Makefiles", and that did something, but now I don't know what I'm supposed to do next, or whether I was supposed to something else first... the readme doesn't make that much sense to me. 

Seems the code is written for C++11 but the compiler is not expecting that version of C++.

you can try running: CXXFLAGS="-std=c++11" make
instead of just make

I would report it as an issue to the netradient devs though. Also, what is the output of: g++ --version? 

After doing
cmake -H. -Bbuild -G "Unix Makefiles"

you should do this:
cd build
make

CMake generates the Makefile for building radiant in the "build" subdirectory. (when you run "make", it looks for a file called Makefile in the current directory). 

g++ (Ubuntu 4.8.4-2ubuntu1~14.04.3) 4.8.4
Copyright (C) 2013 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
This is free software; see the source for copying conditions. There is NO
warranty; not even for MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE.

I'm doing
cd build
make
and something is happening... 

Thank you, ericw!