Is this a beta or a released map? You put in here as beta and on Quaddicted as a release. 

I was ready to release it, as I had a couple of testers play it and I made the adjustments they suggested so I thought it was ready to release lol. I'm extremely new at all this so wasn't really sure where I was supposed to post it or what the normal procedure was :/

I couldn't get your demos to play. I tried them on JoeQuake and Quakespasm but it just gives me an error.

In terms of the NG and the acid, were you not using the hazmat suit?

Thank you for all your feedback as well man and taking the time to play the level. I'd really like to watch those demos. 

is it a beta or a release? If it is a release you need to make a news thread (bottom of the page while on the main or news page).

About the error in the demos, could you copy the text here? I recorded them on Quakespasm without anything special so they should work. Were you maybe playing them on AD or any other mod? That could be the reason as i recorded them in id1 (modless), and would also explain why i haven't seen an envirosuit in the map. 

To submit a news thread is on the TOP of the news page and bottom of the forum page. 

I would say it's a release.

in terms of the demos. For Quakespasm it says:

playing demo from efqc.dem (I renamed it)
fitzquake 0.85 server (24778 crc)
escape from quakertraz
using protocol 666
host_error: model maps/efq.bsp not found

for joequake it say:
playing demo from efqc.dem
fitzquake 0.85 server (24778 crc)
server returned version 666. not 15
host_error: cl_parseservermessage: Illegible server message.

??????
I don't know what any of that means lol 

did you record the demo and then later rename the bsp? That would explain Quakespasm's error. 

It is ok to rename the demo file, it will not change a thing.

About Quakespasm, it is what metlslime said: The .bsp file you have has a different name. You probably renamed it for release but the one you were compiling has another filename. Grab the one from the pack you linked here, put it in /id1/maps and try again.

About Joequake, it is saying that it does not recognize the version of the server used for recording the demo, as it is exclusive of Fitzquake-type Quake engines. 

a shambler & shambler shrunk my textures.
:P 

First Map, Feedback Appreciated
#15806 posted by Poorchop on 2018/08/30 18:11:45
I wasn't able to finish this map and I won't be able to work on it for a really long time, so I'm releasing it as an unfinished beta...


Is this avesome map still beta? 

First single player map in beta

A bit linear but first attempts right?

Looking forward to comments/suggestions ect

DL:
http://www.quaketastic.com/files/sc_CSMN_beta1.zip

Screenshots:
http://www.quaketastic.com/files/sc_CSMN_beta1.png
http://www.quaketastic.com/files/sc_CSMN_beta2.png
http://www.quaketastic.com/files/sc_CSMN_beta3.png
http://www.quaketastic.com/files/sc_CSMN_beta4.png
http://www.quaketastic.com/files/sc_CSMN_beta5.png
http://www.quaketastic.com/files/sc_CSMN_beta6.png 

Hello
I have a map blockout that needs testing if anyone is interested.
Requires Arcane Dimensions. Base themed and very combat focused.
Please ignore the fugly build and some rather blunt triggering atm :)

https://www.dropbox.com/s/331t5sddionrm9x/zqfdraft01.bsp?dl=0 

Just an update of the beta I posted before.

Comments and critiques welcome.

http://www.quaketastic.com/files/sc_CSMN_beta2.zip 

Use the "silent" spawnflag (2) on all point-sized trigger_teleport entities! 

HA! It worked! Many thanks negke! 

While mapping some idiot samples of a distorted Escher map I came to the point to add the TurnWig to the level. Faintly the thing came up with a 3000 vertices model.
After a few days grimming on giving up I found a movearound with *.obj transport that minimized it back to the save zone of 800 verts. Now wait till it starts rolling against the walls. :P 

 

I have an skill 1 demo of your map.

http://quaketastic.com/files/demos/sc_csmn_beta2_cocerello.zip

It is a good map, solid and well balanced. The lighting is adequate and the secret i found was well planned.

On the other side, the map is too straightforward, as it is most of the time just staying on the place and shooting at the front. I think it needs some more ambushes or enemies from the side or a different floor, like it is on the two slime areas or at the silver door. For example, the encounter at the silver key would be a lot better if making the room a bit bigger and teleporting the enemies to the sides or at an upper floor, while being careful that the player not just stays at the door shooting. Other way would be to change some more corridors into T sections that end soon and place the enemies there.
Another thing to take into account is that the map can be finished even in skill 2 with only the SG and even leave withan almost full caché of shells. I think you should change some big shell boxes for normal ones, like the one with the NG.
I would also make it so the jumping grunt at the beginning will ot aggro till the player is inside the room. 

Reworked some areas. Added some stuff.

A little more light and monster/ammo tweaking should be about all.

Should be a slight improvement over beta 2 I hope.

http://www.quaketastic.com/files/sc_CSMN_beta3.zip

Pics of tweaked areas
http://www.quaketastic.com/files/sc_csmn_beta2_1.png
http://www.quaketastic.com/files/sc_csmn_beta2_2.png
http://www.quaketastic.com/files/sc_csmn_beta2_3.png 

Here's a Skill 1 demo with commentary throughout.

Things I liked:

Nice little old school map. I prefer shorter maps so this was great for my tastes. The secrets I found were fun and rewarding. I liked how you wove in some outdoor areas here and there. I'd suggest adding more if you want. i.e in the the silver key area you have an enemy fire in at you from outside. That was cool. The exit room was really nice. High contrast looks great in there. You have some nice multi-stage contraptions (silver key room) - more of those would be awesome.

Some things to consider:

Base maps are kind of hard to nail because they can get "busy" very quickly if you use a bunch of colorful textures. You have some very "vibrant" areas in the map that are almost too much to look at. So for example you have some doors with big yellow light textures surrounding them. Some of those are a bit much for my tastes. But this is a subjective thing. I think overall you have a decent looking base map here.

As far as gameplay. It's an easy map.I am going to go back and play this on hard to see any differences. Many of the enemies are on the same plane as the player. That's too Doom-y for me. There's one area where you have enemies attack from above though. That took me off guard because it was rare in your map. You may want to mix up some of the elevations in the map where possible.

You had some dead end areas and that's okay but I was a bit confused here and there as you'll see in the demo. Also maybe mix it up a bit on your doors. I missed the nail gun area completely. If you had a "see thru" door that showed me the gun was there I would have noticed it. As it stands, you have some doors that are unlocked and some that are "opened elsewhere.

One last thing: those "phat" railings in the central slime room are out of control! I'd re-work those to match some of the better railings in the map. Makes for much better visibility. I didn't notice the hatch until much later for example.

There are some buttons you need to fix the lip and add wait -1 after they are tripped. Little fixes here and there.

Okay, that's enough from me! Good job. Keep mapping and enjoy yourself. 

Some more tweaks ect.

Hopefully should be the last construction build
and will be moving on to monster placement ect ect.

http://www.quaketastic.com/files/sc_CSMN_beta4.bsp 

Even the stone itself mocks your plight.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/348561852990488579/731998822867140748/unknown.png 

I did some mapping with LibreQuake textures. These work-in-progress maps might or might not show up in LibreQuake (they're not official by any means), but I strung them together to form an impromptu mini-campaign. Perhaps some enjoyment can be derived from giving these maps a go.

https://maikmerten.de/maps/savlqmaps/ 

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SLIGHT SPOILERS FOLLOW
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Fun little mini-episode. I'll have to go back for the secrets I missed; enjoyed the ones I did find. The ending of the last map made me chuckle.

Some thoughts:

The good:

I really liked the first and second map (and the transition map was a cool effect). Got a little lost in the second one and found myself looped back to the GK door without having encountered the GK itself -- had to go back and find an area I'd missed. Maybe that's just me, or maybe progression in the second map could be tweaked a bit.

Quite a few of the textures are really nice (which is more feedback for the LibreQuake team than for you specifically, I guess) and I really like the old-school-but-not-quite architecture, which I often find more charming and interesting than every-brick-is-a-brush excessive detail.

The less good (in my opinion):

The horde fight in the first map feels a little too climactic for the first map in an episode. On a related note, you were also a tad overly generous with the weapons here, leaving pretty much nothing new to be found in the second and third maps -- particularly if the player finds all the secrets.

(Since you wrote that you just pretty much just glued together a few maps in an impromptu fashion, I guess this map was not necessarily meant to be the the first map of an episode, so my criticism might not be that relevant.)

In fact, in my opinion both horde fights (in the first and last map) kind of clash with the old-school approach the maps otherwise follow, as do the use of so many high-tier monsters. Perhaps not much of an issue now, but I wonder how well this kind of gameplay would fit LibreQuake's vision. Plus, I just find horde fights boring (but that's just me!).

The ugly:

Sorry to say this, but the start map is really ugly (I don't mean the two jokey textures; I liked those). The final map was also a bit of a let-down after the other two. It feels perhaps a bit unfinished (WIP, I know), with a few areas being maybe somewhat underdetailed. I mean, I like the restrained aesthetic overall, but the final map features a few too many large monotextured blocks. It was also a little disappointing to see so many textures repeated form the first map, which made this one feel less like a separate place. It would have been nice if it had more of a distinct identity, especially after that transition map.

Overall, though, I enjoyed this. It's made me excited for LibreQuake. Thanks for sharing. 

threekidsinatrenchcoat, thanks for giving these maps a try and providing your thoughts!

I'm glad you in general seem to like maps one and two - those are "new", while the third map is a retextured version of my SM181 entry from a while back with a few tweaks here and there. I resurrected that one mostly to give the LibreQuake textures a try. Being satisfied with the quality of the textures, I created the other two maps. I guess the retexture did nothing to hide the speedmap roots ;-)

As you have noticed, the weapon progression in the impromptu mini-episode does not make a lot of sense. As fact, all maps right now are designed for a "shotgun start" and it is as of now unclear in what episode and in which slot these maps end up being (in fact, it is unlikely that these maps will end up in the same episode). The "shotgun startability" means each map is keen to provide ample of supplies, which feels overly generous. With a proper placement being settled on, it then should be possible to redistribute weapons and items accordingly.


I assume you'll be happy to hear that this particular start map is not LibreQuake's start map, I simply slapped that one together to have *something*. I'm glad I did not invest a lot of effort into that one, for the following reason:

Given that each map is somewhat "standalone", the start map perhaps instead should be a "map selection hub" and not just a difficulty select. As such, the premise of the current start map to be a "quickly thrown-together classic Quake start map" may be flawed.

As for missing the GK on the first run through the loop in map two: I'm somewhat surprised that players don't seem to reliably notice the brightly lit gold key placed in plain view in an otherwise dimly lit environment. You are not the only one that left the GK behind, so I guess I might have to prevent players from leaving the area too soon or have a stronger visual cue.