Throw Me An EMail Plz
#15315 posted by rebb on 2015/08/28 23:26:04
How complex is the map ? Are you making use of detail-brushes ?
Did you try compiling it with TyrUtils ?
Says I With No EMail Set In The Account.
#15316 posted by rebb on 2015/08/28 23:33:09
rebb at voidspark net
Quiet
#15317 posted by madfox on 2015/08/28 23:53:42
complex, cut out all extra brushes to reach limit, was bound to bjp_tools_xt_290914 latest tools and would only light with tyrutils015_win32.
I get the feeling only the old vistools will help me out here, and the experience is one week.
I'll send you the map, thanx for your answer.
Madfox
#15318 posted by negke on 2015/08/29 09:37:36
Did you notice post #15023? Asaki is offering to help you with your QC trouble. By the way, the email address and website url on your profile is outdated.
Neg!ke
#15319 posted by madfox on 2015/08/29 21:19:56
I know. I will send Asaki the info.
And yes, my email was outdated and meanwhile I'm restoring my new website.
No Spawn Function For Func_dm_only
#15320 posted by adib on 2015/09/01 03:00:40
I'm trying to set my jam 6 level for deathmatch. Navigation would improve with some teleports. Then I found this entity func_dm_only, a teleporter for deathmatch only. But standard id1 doesn't seem to have it and I get a "no spawn function for" console message.
Any ideas? I believe id1 progs.dat should have this entity...
#15321 posted by necros on 2015/09/01 04:43:53
not in my copy of the source code. i've also never heard of it.
i think you can simulate this effect by checking all 3 of the not easy, medium, hard skills.
Necros: O_o
#15322 posted by adib on 2015/09/01 06:18:06
Wow, that worked. I thought the skill checkboxes had no relation with deathmatch yes/no. Or at least that would fail in nightmare skill (not easy, not medium, not hard).
I already had a logic gate setup working. Got back here just to say it. But now I'm deleting it. Just have to be sure if the 3 checkboxes work for every entity (even those where Jackhammer UI doesn't show the checks).
#15323 posted by necros on 2015/09/01 06:22:11
if you are missing checkboxes, you can just manually set the 'spawnflags' field to '1792'. this is the bits 256, 512 and 1024 added together. you can do this for any combination of flags.
Gamemodes
#15324 posted by oGkspAz on 2015/09/01 11:56:10
I imagine this is impossible in Quake but QIIIA had options for DM only, TDM only etc. If this is not possible, it would have been a great addition.
DM Only
I think setting flags of "not in easy, medium or hard" is the only way to do this?
Yes
#15326 posted by ijed on 2015/09/01 13:57:59
That's how it's done.
"nan"?
Not sure if this should go here or in the TrenchBroom thread...
Just created something in TrenchBroom, saved it, and when I tried to open it again, it gave me an error saying
(line 441, column 107)Expected integer or decimal, but got 'nan'
So I opened the file in a text editor and on line 441 one of the coordinates is indeed "nan" -- but in also in a few other places as well. I am guessing "nan" means "not a number" or "not a valid number"; is this correct?
How on earth does this happen, and how can one fix it? Should I replace all instances of "nan" with something else in my text editor, and if so, with what?
(I should perhaps also mention that I have done nothing really intricate in this map; no rotation; everything on grid.)
Mighty Need For Rock Brushes Tips
#15328 posted by aDaya on 2015/09/01 16:50:35
Okay, so this problem has been tormanting me ever since I started quake mapping: believable, compileable rock brushes.
How can I make believable enough rock brushes (not blocky) and still get vis to work? I'm wasting my time on my rejected jam6 map because of this shit.
Find Rocks U Think Look Good And Copy Them
#15329 posted by czg on 2015/09/01 16:51:52
Sock Has Guides
#15330 posted by Spirit on 2015/09/01 16:57:31
Ask Me How
#15331 posted by adib on 2015/09/01 19:48:31
I like mine, really.
http://s3.photobucket.com/user/amurad/media/Games/jam6_18b_zpswa4ketjr.jpg.html?sort=3&o=2
They were made like this:
http://www.simonoc.com/pages/articles/rockwall1_1.htm
Golden rule: as long as you skew faces, you're safe.
In other words: if you're going to move vertices, you have to move all vertices in a surface together. And I said MOVE, not rotate.
Even Better
#15332 posted by adib on 2015/09/01 19:59:34
Platinum rule: your brush is always valid if all faces are parallelograms, all vertices are on grid and at least two faces are parallel to orthogonal axis.
Meaning that if you make a cube you can skew its faces at your will, it will compile.
Of course you're not skewing a face across its opposite; in this case you're just trying to troll me.
Trisoup!
#15333 posted by ijed on 2015/09/01 20:02:00
Make a cube out of 4 sided brushes (pyramids, not prisms). That can then be duplicated and manipulated to your heart's content to produce whatever formations of rocks you like.
#15334 posted by Rick on 2015/09/01 21:15:17
For tri-soup walls and floors use 3 sided prisms/columns and move the vertexes on one end up/down (or in/out if walls). In my Jam6 map you can see how I tri-souped the walls, floor and ceiling.
There's also some randomly formed off-grid rocks that seemed to compile fine.
With careful clipping I made some columns/prisms where all the sides are formed by triangles. You can drag the vertexes around to make interesting shapes, just keep the brush convex and the ends flat. Cap the flat ends with stubby pyramids to give them a rounder look.
Yes
#15335 posted by adib on 2015/09/01 21:15:18
Triangular faces are always valid. Diamond rule.
Decorative Items/objects
#15336 posted by damage_inc on 2015/09/01 22:05:21
How much can you actually build using brushes? For example, say you were building a medieval style map and wanted wooden barrels, wheeled carts, crates, signs or metal light fixtures etc... can you build all that detail with no problems?
What I mean by "crates" is, beyond a six sided cube with a crate texture applied. A crate that has some dimensionality to it.
Engines are more advanced, limits are increased(providing openness and crazy architecture) as well as lighting being dramatically improved. But beyond that, there is very little in the way of filling the environment with anything more than monsters still!
#15337 posted by Lunaran on 2015/09/01 23:08:10
trisouping makes for really wonky slopes and ramps that are very awkward to walk on. collision with lots of strangely angled walls also feels very catchy and jagged. it looks nice but it works a lot better in quake3.
use flat floors, big ramps at compiler-friendly slope ratios, and lots of small steps if you really need to break up a floor with geometry. make your cliffs out of irregular hexagonal and pentagonal prisms (with the corners on-grid and the faces also on compiler-friendly slopes) and only slant the tops and bottoms.
you will be entirely forgiven (by me at least) if your rocks look a little "quakey" but have smooth solid collision.
Mapping Tip Of The Day
#15338 posted by Preach on 2015/09/01 23:26:20
So you want to cast a shadow invisibly, like the Q on the ground in e1m5? If you're using a compiler which supports _shadow, you've probably thought of doing it with a func_wall that you then killtarget, or even hacking the entities in the bsp and deleting the func_wall. But there's an easier way! Instead of making the shadowcaster a func_wall, just give it the classname info_null, and the QC will remove it for you, no mess, no fuss.
Rocks
#15339 posted by ijed on 2015/09/01 23:42:07
I liked the rocks in Daz' brimstone mapjam entry - they looking volcanic rock-like despite being angular and quakey.
Making really big lumps of strata looks good and doesn't leave you with micro-clip floor problems.
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