Oh really? I never knew. So it's a bug or side effect of optimisation in the original dos quake? This doesn't happen with quake 3 bsp right?

Just tested -oldaxis, god that is damn useful. Thanks for that. 

That's odd, I've used Netradiant and Fitzquake/Quakespasm for years and have never had that problem.

I do use an old version of Netradiant though, from 2012 I think. I used Bengt Jardrup's qbsp until changing to txqbsp_xt, never with -oldaxis.

I do remember having that problem when I first started making Quake maps. That was probably the original Worldcraft and Id's qbsp though. 

I have had a look around this (massive) thread but so far have only found these two Lighting tutorials:
https://goo.gl/kLPFuq (Spawnhost)
https://goo.gl/scVY9o (Shores of Nis)
Now these are fine for "what commands are available to me" but don't really seem to do much on the "what happens when I" or "how can I best do" fronts.

So far Tyr's site for his utils have been of more use to me.

Are there any others that I should be aware of?
I have even contemplated making a bunch of cubes connected with a plain passage and then adding a single light in each with various light and wait settings just to see what happens with each. 

IMO some of the best examples of lighting used to guide a player can be found in the Portal games. 

Using shortened links like that is the perfect way of making links break and sites hard to find... 

Huh... I should edit my guide... When I wrote it, mh's light was the only modern one around. :P 

"Oh really? I never knew. So it's a bug or side effect of optimisation in the original dos quake? This doesn't happen with quake 3 bsp right?

Just tested -oldaxis, god that is damn useful. Thanks for that. "

It has to do with Quake's automatic texture mapping and how it decides which axis to use when it encounters a 45 degree angle. There was never a consensus reached so compilers offer that switch to compensate. 

Please, is there a way to set r_skyfog on worldspawn? I'm using MarkV. Already tried _skyfog, skyfog and even (desperate) r_skyfog. None of them work. 

It can be done by putting it in a quake.rc file, and running the map as a separate game mod. I don't know of any way to just include it in the bsp file. 

if you are willing to try this hack: http://celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=37116&start=212&end=212 

Why is that anyway? QBSP will store the key/value pair in the bsp file. Could using it be added to the next version of Fitzquake/Quakespasm? 

Neat! Worth a try. 

unbirthday, re-register please, no such username at i3d/iqc. 

After stalling on this for a long time, I added a "_skyfog" worldspawn key to Quakespasm recently, to be included the next release. Also, _wateralpha,_lavaalpha,_slimealpha,_telealpha. 

Could you also add the fov thing on viewportmodels that FQMKV has? That's a neat feature and makes the weapons at higher fov not look weird. 

Try fov_adapt 

but not quite as good. 

Good stuff just keeps coming. Separate alphas for the different liquids also? Man, that's great. 

So I made a trigger which triggers a bunch or relays which trigger lights with a staggered delay. I set the relays to have sound but they do not play any. What gives? 

trigger_relay's .qc code is

void() trigger_relay =
{
self.use = SUB_UseTargets;
};

Literally all it does is 'use' (trigger) it's targets. That's it. No sounds or anything else fancy.

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There's some entity hack stuff you can do to make an info_notnull play a sound, so you could target that and it will play your sound. Give it the following properties:

"use" "train_wait"
"wait" "-1"
"noise" "boss2/sight.wav" (or whatever sound, look in the .pak files for the names)

The sound must be precached, or your map will crash, so make it a sound that another entity in your map plays, that entity will precache the sound for you. For instance, the sound I used was from boss2, who is Shub, so I would need to place Shub in my map somewhere to use the sound. 

Thanks, that works. Was just confused because in the .fgd I got (the one DaZ made for JH) there is a dropdown for sound style on relay_triggers. 

you can trigger a trigger_once/trigger_multiple by giving it a targetname. then you can add any sounds you want to it. use the 'notouch' flag so you can't accidentally walk into it. 

What entity makes the "large Switch" sound then? Like the sound in e1m1 as the lights turn on as you go down the slime room with the 3 buttons. 

Quark tells me "sounds" "3" on a trigger_once/multiple makes the "large switch" sound :)

There's also 2="beep beep" 1="secret" 0=none 

the trigger volumes do.