#1499 posted by Baker on 2016/10/23 05:54:40
@mugwup see line #222 in the ad_v1_42_readme.txt
Thanks Baker
#1500 posted by Mugwump on 2016/10/23 06:04:53
Mugwump
#1501 posted by muk on 2016/10/23 09:29:19
line 582 might interest you too.
@Mugwump
#1502 posted by Theon on 2016/10/23 19:34:25
Yeah, I was using TB2, but hoped that it wouldn't be all that different. The addon seems to work (at leats it adds entity boxes to the entity browser).
Haven't been able to find any other tutorial...
Which makes me wonder:
How did all you Quake mappers even figure these things out? Back in the day, it must have been an insane puzzle to figure out on your own, but even today there doesn't seem to be much in the way of documentation and tutorials on how to use the map tools online.
Perhaps my google-fu is just weak, but I'm quite impressed with you all. Especially if you made maps through 2D views(!).
Also,
@Baker
Found this in the AD readme:
"Mappers : The editor .def and .fgd files supplied with this MOD require
: the worldspawn entity to have "no_item_offset" set to 1"
Yeah, I suppose I should've just tried a vanilla Quake map. Thanks for pointing this out.
#1503 posted by Baker on 2016/10/23 20:58:34
If you connected to #Terrafusion on QuakeNet (IRC) I suspect that these things that take you hours to figure out would instead take minutes or seconds because it is real time chat and anyone there has either made 10 maps or played 200 of them.
#Terrafusion was always the IRC home of the mappers that live here.
Weapon Improvements
#1504 posted by mjb on 2016/11/20 05:51:53
Dwere,
Just want to throw a thanks for your efforts. I really enjoyed the new weapon improvements you made!
#1505 posted by dwere on 2016/11/25 10:20:03
Thank you, and you're welcome.
I just emailed spirit with an updated installed for QME so that it will install on more modern machines.
That was one frustrating 3 hour rabbit hole.
Treasureware
#1507 posted by madfox on 2016/11/29 22:55:23
Could it be that modern engines (win7) disturb older programms (qmle) to work properly?
IMHO now I understand a bit why my Abe'sOddWorld wouldn't play
on OS while it went fine on OSX, I blamed the program.
This after trying Wally, Texmex and QME with Win7 and WinXp,
older programs work best on what they were made for.
Vwep
#1508 posted by c0burn on 2016/12/02 22:33:34
So - I have the standard player.mdl, and a g_plasma.mdl, and I got into qme, and merge the g_plasma.mdl into player.mdl because I was to animate it on the quakeguy. The vertices get all fecked up, like so:
[url]http://i.imgur.com/oLYGSfN.png[/url]
[url]http://i.imgur.com/bJ54262.png[/url]
How do I fix this? What other ways of doing this are there? How did other people do it?
My Way
#1509 posted by madfox on 2016/12/03 00:06:14
Beat way to fix it by move your object ie. g_plasma.mdl upwards.
Then export your all the frames by export multiple frames to another file.
Start a new object with import the frame you rised the g_plasma gun.
You will get a new model with a better skin file.
Import all frames back to the new model file.
Also
#1510 posted by madfox on 2016/12/03 00:49:09
I uploaded q2mdl29b_alsoq1.zip to quaktastic/tools.
It is Quake2 modeleditor, but Quake1 also.
A bit stiffy, but a good reference in between qmle.
It might be strange, but quark4.07 was one with the first modelstudio.
I use them three when working on Q1 models.
Stiffy??
English slang for an erection!!
Your Heigh Ness
#1512 posted by madfox on 2016/12/03 07:35:56
My last convertions of models to quake1.
ncc1701
hubble
Vwep
#1513 posted by c0burn on 2016/12/03 08:14:19
@madfox, can you give me a step by step example as I'm not fully understanding what you mean. Thank you
When I Use Merge I Get A Skinfile Included To The Original
#1514 posted by madfox on 2016/12/03 09:05:05
You had merged your g_plasmagun into the player model.
I tried the same appearance as your bj54262.png, loading player.mdl to rockrun3 and merge another weapon in.
As result I get a player with the weapon through its head, but on the skinfile I get one weaponskin extra.
In your png I see the right plasmagun skin, but there is interference with the player skin.
I can't restate the effect you result, as mine show the player with the extra merged weaponskin aside.
Can you send me the file of the g_plasmagun,mdl?
Vwep
#1515 posted by c0burn on 2016/12/03 21:25:08
Skin
#1516 posted by madfox on 2016/12/04 00:23:51
That was a bit of a hussle. I'm not exactly sure what happens, but for some reason the g_lavagun skin keeps interfering with the player skin.
I tried different placements of it in the merging file, but even from the corners it kept crunching the player's back.
For me I wouldn't mind, as it's just a small side of the gun. It takes more time to scale it and make it move accordingly the shotgun.(compare before delete).
I don't have an explanation for it, my weapons just load fully aside from the orginal.
Solution I found is load the model in the Quark4.07, clip the brushes in the skin view so you see vertex points light. Then slowly turn them back to left so they don't tresspass the ones of the player skin. Takes some skill
c0burnplayer
Vwep
#1517 posted by c0burn on 2016/12/04 00:46:01
@madfox, you're an absolute star. Thank you very much.
#1518 posted by madfox on 2016/12/04 00:55:49
You're welcome!
AD Axe
#1519 posted by dwere on 2016/12/12 09:59:30
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B9DxOfPvG2G1RDdoY0wtTzU5RW8
Changes: new hand, improved lighting, skin pixelings. The last one cost me the most time for the least amount of visible change, as always.
Source files are included. Ignore the hammer, it's unfinished. The stock id1 axe wasn't updated with the hand mesh and rigging improvements I made when molesting the AD axe, so it's a little obsolete.
I had to unmangle the original shadaxe from what the MDL format did to it, then the model was animated from scratch, and then it was mangled again during exporting => the shape might not be exactly like it was.
Since the hand that I made takes more space on the skin, I had to cut the second side of the blade. I could make the skin bigger, but I wanted its size to be power of two, and preferably not very ridiculous. I wanted to reinclude the second half for the pickup model, but I'm too tired after doing cruel and unusual things to 7 subtly different versions of the first half.
http://i.imgur.com/xdBH3Az.png
Dwere
#1520 posted by mjb on 2016/12/12 13:17:55
That looks amazing, I use all of your weapon mdl revamps so I am excited to check this out later!
#1521 posted by dwere on 2016/12/12 13:58:58
The hand still needs work, I think. It was supposed to be the main (or even the only) improvement, but got neglected in the end.
Thanks For The Models
#1522 posted by mjb on 2016/12/15 13:18:45
Dwere,
I want to let you know your SSG model is my favorite. Love the small details done there.
And to Skiffy,
Your HD shambler is irreplaceable and a must have whenever I reinstall quake anywhere. I hope you are still continuing with the vore work but I lost track of any updates/cancellations.
SSG Model
#1523 posted by dwere on 2016/12/15 13:21:35
Which one? I made two sets - one stock-ish, one completely different (lever-action).
Regardless, thanks for the kind words.
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