#1493 posted by Baker on 2016/10/23 04:15:40
You should probably ask map editor questions in the thread for that map editor.
I could tell you how to add a entity to a map, but knowing how to use your map editor of choice is something you have to bring to the party.
Sorry
#1494 posted by Theon on 2016/10/23 04:25:40
Yeah, I wasn't sure this was the appropriate place to ask.
>I could tell you how to add a entity to a map
I'll try your way if you'd be willing to share?
I just want to see if I can have my model rendered in Quake, nothing more complex.
#1495 posted by Baker on 2016/10/23 04:30:47
If you want to do that and do it fast, use Pakscape to open quake\id1\pak0.pak and delete g_rock.mdl (make a copy of your pak)
Then put your model (renaming it) as quake\id1\progs\g_rock.mdl (make the progs folder).
Start Quake, load dm6 and go to where the grenade launcher would be.
That would be the fastest way to do what you want.
Only In Quoth?
#1496 posted by Mugwump on 2016/10/23 04:43:04
In the future I may need to do this kind of stuff but I intend to map primarily for AD.
#1497 posted by Theon on 2016/10/23 05:13:56
Thanks a lot, Baker!
I'll try that!
@Mugwump
I was trying to edit the AD start.map in TB, without luck. I'm certain I'm just doing something remarkably stupid, though.
Theon
#1498 posted by Mugwump on 2016/10/23 05:36:06
I see the TB add-on you linked is for TB1. You're not using TB2?
#1499 posted by Baker on 2016/10/23 05:54:40
@mugwup see line #222 in the ad_v1_42_readme.txt
Thanks Baker
#1500 posted by Mugwump on 2016/10/23 06:04:53
Mugwump
#1501 posted by muk on 2016/10/23 09:29:19
line 582 might interest you too.
@Mugwump
#1502 posted by Theon on 2016/10/23 19:34:25
Yeah, I was using TB2, but hoped that it wouldn't be all that different. The addon seems to work (at leats it adds entity boxes to the entity browser).
Haven't been able to find any other tutorial...
Which makes me wonder:
How did all you Quake mappers even figure these things out? Back in the day, it must have been an insane puzzle to figure out on your own, but even today there doesn't seem to be much in the way of documentation and tutorials on how to use the map tools online.
Perhaps my google-fu is just weak, but I'm quite impressed with you all. Especially if you made maps through 2D views(!).
Also,
@Baker
Found this in the AD readme:
"Mappers : The editor .def and .fgd files supplied with this MOD require
: the worldspawn entity to have "no_item_offset" set to 1"
Yeah, I suppose I should've just tried a vanilla Quake map. Thanks for pointing this out.
#1503 posted by Baker on 2016/10/23 20:58:34
If you connected to #Terrafusion on QuakeNet (IRC) I suspect that these things that take you hours to figure out would instead take minutes or seconds because it is real time chat and anyone there has either made 10 maps or played 200 of them.
#Terrafusion was always the IRC home of the mappers that live here.
Weapon Improvements
#1504 posted by mjb on 2016/11/20 05:51:53
Dwere,
Just want to throw a thanks for your efforts. I really enjoyed the new weapon improvements you made!
#1505 posted by dwere on 2016/11/25 10:20:03
Thank you, and you're welcome.
I just emailed spirit with an updated installed for QME so that it will install on more modern machines.
That was one frustrating 3 hour rabbit hole.
Treasureware
#1507 posted by madfox on 2016/11/29 22:55:23
Could it be that modern engines (win7) disturb older programms (qmle) to work properly?
IMHO now I understand a bit why my Abe'sOddWorld wouldn't play
on OS while it went fine on OSX, I blamed the program.
This after trying Wally, Texmex and QME with Win7 and WinXp,
older programs work best on what they were made for.
Vwep
#1508 posted by c0burn on 2016/12/02 22:33:34
So - I have the standard player.mdl, and a g_plasma.mdl, and I got into qme, and merge the g_plasma.mdl into player.mdl because I was to animate it on the quakeguy. The vertices get all fecked up, like so:
[url]http://i.imgur.com/oLYGSfN.png[/url]
[url]http://i.imgur.com/bJ54262.png[/url]
How do I fix this? What other ways of doing this are there? How did other people do it?
My Way
#1509 posted by madfox on 2016/12/03 00:06:14
Beat way to fix it by move your object ie. g_plasma.mdl upwards.
Then export your all the frames by export multiple frames to another file.
Start a new object with import the frame you rised the g_plasma gun.
You will get a new model with a better skin file.
Import all frames back to the new model file.
Also
#1510 posted by madfox on 2016/12/03 00:49:09
I uploaded q2mdl29b_alsoq1.zip to quaktastic/tools.
It is Quake2 modeleditor, but Quake1 also.
A bit stiffy, but a good reference in between qmle.
It might be strange, but quark4.07 was one with the first modelstudio.
I use them three when working on Q1 models.
Stiffy??
English slang for an erection!!
Your Heigh Ness
#1512 posted by madfox on 2016/12/03 07:35:56
My last convertions of models to quake1.
ncc1701
hubble
Vwep
#1513 posted by c0burn on 2016/12/03 08:14:19
@madfox, can you give me a step by step example as I'm not fully understanding what you mean. Thank you
When I Use Merge I Get A Skinfile Included To The Original
#1514 posted by madfox on 2016/12/03 09:05:05
You had merged your g_plasmagun into the player model.
I tried the same appearance as your bj54262.png, loading player.mdl to rockrun3 and merge another weapon in.
As result I get a player with the weapon through its head, but on the skinfile I get one weaponskin extra.
In your png I see the right plasmagun skin, but there is interference with the player skin.
I can't restate the effect you result, as mine show the player with the extra merged weaponskin aside.
Can you send me the file of the g_plasmagun,mdl?
Vwep
#1515 posted by c0burn on 2016/12/03 21:25:08
Skin
#1516 posted by madfox on 2016/12/04 00:23:51
That was a bit of a hussle. I'm not exactly sure what happens, but for some reason the g_lavagun skin keeps interfering with the player skin.
I tried different placements of it in the merging file, but even from the corners it kept crunching the player's back.
For me I wouldn't mind, as it's just a small side of the gun. It takes more time to scale it and make it move accordingly the shotgun.(compare before delete).
I don't have an explanation for it, my weapons just load fully aside from the orginal.
Solution I found is load the model in the Quark4.07, clip the brushes in the skin view so you see vertex points light. Then slowly turn them back to left so they don't tresspass the ones of the player skin. Takes some skill
c0burnplayer
Vwep
#1517 posted by c0burn on 2016/12/04 00:46:01
@madfox, you're an absolute star. Thank you very much.
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