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#15124 posted by ericw on 2015/08/06 18:05:58
One option, you can dump the wad from a bsp with bsputil --extract-textures (available in tyrutils or my branch).
 What Black Magic Is This
Thanks! Ok, bear in mind this is new territory for me ... so I copied honey.bsp into the directory where I have tyrutils and typed
./bsputil --extract-textures honey
That created a file called "honey.wad", but when I try to use that in TB, it seems to be empty. What am I doing wrong?
 Its A Tb2 Bug :(
#15126 posted by ericw on 2015/08/06 20:07:08
I fixed it though, but wait for SleepwalkR to merge it I guess
Oh. Other wads work, though...
#15128 posted by Rick on 2015/08/06 20:27:02
Do you have TexMex? That's one of the best tools for messing with texture wads. It can read the textures from a .bsp and save them as a wad. I didn't see it a quaketastic or quaddicted, but there's a lot to search through there, I may have missed it.
#15129 posted by Rick on 2015/08/06 20:30:46
 Thanks, Rick!
I'll give that a shot. I've used TexMex once before, about a year ago or so. Can't remember what I used it for, but it wasn't for this. I never realised one could simply extract textures from a bsp. Thanks for the link; I no longer had TexMex on my computer, so that really helps.
#15131 posted by necros on 2015/08/07 01:28:17
texmex has aged really well, as a tool. still massively relevant and functions perfectly on modern OSes.
 So I'm Using Ericw's Awesome Light Tool...
#15132 posted by ionous on 2015/08/07 09:19:21
And it's messing with me:
http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm196/voiceofthenephilim/why%20light%20why_zps5n36j9nx.jpg
Three of the lights it claims have a value of '0', despite very much having a value. All of them use the '_surface' function. Does anyone know why they refuse to light?
 Weird
#15133 posted by ericw on 2015/08/07 09:53:40
can't imagine why off hand. That is a slightly old build, could be worth updating just in case that fixes it: http://ericwa.github.io/tyrutils-ericw
Are there any different keys set on the ones that aren't working compared with the one that is?
#15134 posted by Rick on 2015/08/07 10:04:50
What is that Jitterning stuff? I've never seen anything like that when I run it.
#15135 posted by ericw on 2015/08/07 10:07:15
That was some debugging code left in by accident in an older build
 Scaling Brushes
I'm assuming this isn't possible, but it couldn't hurt to ask...
Is it possible to increase or decrease the size of a brush while preserving its shape? As in, let's say you've created a cylindrical shape, and you want a larger version (not just longer, but with a larger diameter). Is it necessary to create a new, separate brush (as I've been doing), or is there perhaps a tool or function that lets you simply increase/decrease the scale of the brush (kind of like you can do with images in image editing software)?
 Also, Stupid, Noobish Question...
For those using TB: I've only just noticed that I can see three lines in-editor, an orange, blue and green one, corresponding to the x, y and z axes (not necessarily in that order). Is the point where they intersect the centre of the world (i.e. 0, 0, 0)?
#15138 posted by mfx on 2015/08/07 13:24:06
1st. Its possible to scale brushes up/down the amount you want with some editors. Trenchbroom currently doesnt do this for you.
2nd. Yes.
 Thanks, Mfx!
#15140 posted by - on 2015/08/07 14:00:21
Scaling complex brush shapes isn't something you want to do in Quake anyway.
What I do sometimes to scale up cylinders is to cut them into wedges, and pull the faces on each wedge outwards/inwards. In editors like TB and Radiant which preserve the adjacent angles of other faces when you pull on a face, this works really well. And in Radiant, which has CSG-merge, you can merge all the wedges back together into a single brush.
Otherwise, what I actually do more often, is to just remake the shape I want at the bigger size. This style of curve is what I most often use, and it's all about the ratios (interior angles have 1/4 and 1/1 slopes, outer faces are 1/2 and 2/1), and it's easy to make at all scales with the clipping tool.
 Thanks, Scampie
Really useful advice!
cut them into wedges, and pull the faces on each wedge outwards/inwards
Works like a charm! Thanks again. :)
Currently using only TB, so I have no way of merging the wedges back together -- does this matter much? Am I likely to run into problems when I have 12x as many brushes per cylinder?
#15143 posted by - on 2015/08/07 15:41:07
No, it doesn't really matter, Qbsp will cull the hidden faces anyway. I find it easier to work with less brushes whenever possible though.
 Good To Know, Thanks!
I have another question, though:
When I cut a 12-sided cylinder into wedges and extend the sides as per Scampie's advice, it works perfectly.
However, I just tried it with a 24-sided cylinder, which I created by clipping the corners of a 12-sided cylinder, as shown in czg's curve tutorial: http://www.quaketerminus.com/hosted/happymaps/curv_tut.htm (2nd image from the bottom of the page). Somehow, it doesn't seem to work: when I drag the edges outward, they don't line up.
Is there a mathematical reason for this? And is there a fix/workaround? Does anybody know?
 Ok, I Might Be An Idiot...
When I made the grid size really tiny, it all lined up.
#15146 posted by adib on 2015/08/07 21:50:16
There is this sudden blue to brown transition:
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y80/amurad/Games/jam6a_zpssdvhzf0f.jpg
It's a blue sunlight / sunlight 2 with orange coming from lava.
The top of the rock looks hand painted in blue. There should be a smoother transition to brown. What's the best way to do it, in your opinion?
 Total_newbie
#15147 posted by SleepwalkR on 2015/08/07 23:23:22
Check the keyboard shortcuts, there is a command to build the convex hull of the current selection. The effect is the same as CSG merge. Also works with faces; that makes it easy to build connecting brushes.
 Ericw
#15148 posted by ionous on 2015/08/08 05:08:40
That was it. Thank you.
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