Hard Save?
That is fine, but you should still allow the player to save whenever they want, it is about giving the player a choice like old school shooters
I'd say include a hard save option at least. Some of us have to play in short spurts when we can grab a few minutes here and there. You could limit the amount of saves or give the player a budget of soul tethers to begin with. I'd be very careful with making players frustrated.
#14970 posted by
Mugwump on 2017/07/06 20:37:36
I'd be very careful with making players frustrated.
My point exactly. The soul tether system could be fine, provided these items aren't too scarcely distributed. This will require a fair amount of balancing for each level and difficulty setting.
Saving
#14971 posted by
killpixel on 2017/07/06 21:57:10
I hear you guys loud and clear. Just to reiterate: saves are limited, not removed entirely. The player will have the to option to save, just not 15 times in the space of a couple minutes.
It's too early to tell how well this will work. We're doing more testing. Player feedback, once they get their hands on the demo, will help out here as well.
Seems Fair
#14972 posted by
Cocerello on 2017/07/06 23:37:54
you are just limiting the number of saves, not their location, or number of loadings, so i think it work well for your objective.
Ya
#14973 posted by
Qmaster on 2017/07/06 23:47:50
I think that will work. Plus it spurs actual progress
You Could
#14974 posted by
Qmaster on 2017/07/07 00:00:36
Do cheat or developers only quick saving? ;)
I Need One More Tester For Final Testing On Skill 2
#14975 posted by
megaman on 2017/07/09 14:06:14
Basically, I need to confirm no more bugs are left before the map is released.
It will be quite hard (but cheating is fine).
Experimenting With Fog.
#14977 posted by
Redfield on 2017/07/09 22:16:01
^^madfox that looks awesome! Venus flytap?
I've got a gallery of a couple new screens from my AD map. I've been playing with the fog settings to give some ambience. The colour changes based on locations in the map, having triggers everywhere gets tricky.
Gallery:
http://imgur.com/a/Enpt5
Its really tough to get an idea of how lighting looks based on screens, and my own monitor. I have a waterfall that was being turned into a grey mess by the fog. Its func_illusionary with _minlight, _minlight_color and _lightignore set. This makes it more visible despite the fog. Any suggestions let me know.
Venus Flytrap
#14979 posted by
madfox on 2017/07/10 01:55:11
plumivitius fluctuarish.
It's a model mfx was looking for his deepgreen serenades.
#14980 posted by yhe1 on 2017/07/10 09:10:18
That plant looks awesome Madfox
and even if you can't extract the chasm monsters, hopefully you'll use them as inspiration for when you create new monsters!
Madfox
#14981 posted by
Barnak on 2017/07/10 14:15:46
is that a vulva on a stick ?
REDFIELD
#14982 posted by
Shambler on 2017/07/10 14:30:37
That all looks good. Fog is generally fine, the bright room is a bit bright but that's probably deliberate.
One thing I would say is try to put more design interest into the overall shapes and layouts of the rooms as well as details and structures inside them, if that makes sense?
Killpixel Feedback: Better Late Than Never?
Sorry, I'm very late to the party. If no-one's interested any more, then the TLDR version is "Yay Killpixel, that looks awesome, keep going!". Otherwise:
Are you interested in retro-styled FPS games?
Yes, and your demo video looks great; can't wait to see more.
If so, what is something you want to see in this type of game?
Simple game mechanics (like in Quake) that are easy to grasp and intuitive, so you can just pick up the game and start playing.
And secrets/easter eggs to encourage and reward optional exploration.
Also (maybe this is not a direct answer to the question) that the final game is cross-platform, incl. running natively on Linux.
What is something you do not want to see?
Cutscenes, a heavy-handed story, voice-acting; anything that ventures in the direction of B-Movie rather than game. A "story" told by/revealed in the levels themselves during gameplay is fine of course, but the focus should be on gameplay and not narrative.
And as a corollary to what I wrote above, complicated game mechanics, e.g. RPG-style elements etc.
About the soul tethers: I'm kind of in two minds about this one. On the one hand, I like the fact that it's creative and new, and I kind of like the idea of in-game saving for the same reasons I like in-game difficulty selection in Quake start maps.
On the other hand, I have never felt that the ability to save was a bad thing in any game I've played, and have often wished that I could in games where it was not possible. I kind of feel that the soul-tether idea could be implemented well enough so that it does not become a huge problem, but that I'd always feel that unrestricted saving (like in Quake/Doom etc.) would be better.
Honest question: why is it important to prevent the player from e.g. save-scumming? The way I see it, either the player won't because they don't like playing like that -- in which case the soul tether/save limit system is not really necessary -- or they would want to because that is their playing style, and then the save limit system becomes frustrating.
Is it not a little like using invisible clip brushes to prevent players from reaching an area that should be out of bounds, but that could be reached with plenty of patience and skill were it not for the clip brushes? I mean, is not better at some point to give the player the freedom to play the game the way they want to, even if it means they might not experience it exactly the way the designer envisioned?
I guess I'm explaining this badly, but is it not tempting when you've made a level or an entire game and you've poured all this time and effort and passion into it, to want to (metaphorically) grab the player by scruff of the neck and say "Look at this! Now go here and look at this!", whereas the trick is ultimately to let go and just allow players to roam and do their own thing? I kind of worry that the soul tethers might be a case of the former...
CR8 Set Base
#14984 posted by anonymous user on 2017/07/10 17:15:01
That Was Me
#14985 posted by mfx on 2017/07/10 17:15:17
Will You Ever Stop
#14986 posted by
negke on 2017/07/10 17:29:16
Second shot has major Hadley's Hope vibe. Gonna get Fox'd!
Never Stopping
#14987 posted by anonymous user on 2017/07/10 18:15:19
Hadleys Hope is sth. i didn't know of until now. Thx!
@mfx
I like base but prefer other styles in Quake but man those shots are looking beautiful. Looking forward to playing this.
@mfx
I like base but prefer other styles in Quake but man those shots are looking beautiful. Looking forward to playing this.
Map Finished Mfx
#14992 posted by
madfox on 2017/07/11 00:54:01
@yeh1 - : Thanx for that! I used Gamextractor to get out of the Chasm. Made a new wad for it on Quaketastic and also the inspiration to make a new fan-vent models. The 3OView showed the two models, but the others are used in another pcx format and crash the viewer. So for models I have to play the game a lot. Started with the dino.
@- Barnak : No it's a pizza deliverer that uses self supporting sparechange.
Fucking Mfx Man
#14993 posted by
Drew on 2017/07/11 01:07:38
only criticism I could possibly level at above RubiCR8 shots: slightly distracting degree of tiling with the sand texture in shot 1.
eg rotate and increase scale a bit? or rejig texture?