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Trigger Clip Brushes 
is it possible? 
Yes 
Use func_walls with skip texture. 
Careful Though 
Since that will block projectiles and break the monsters' line of sight. 
Errr 
I thought Tyrann's tools handled brush models made with clip brushes? 
 
one way to improve it is to make a func_wall where the main body is a clip brush, but that has small skip brushes at 2 opposite corners.

This works around a bug in qbsp where clip brushes don't contribute to the physics bounding box of the model, which means you can pass through them if you don't contact the too-small bounding box.

By adding the skip brushes at opposite corners, those brushes ensure the bounding box is correct. And the middle clip brush will work then. 
 
This works around a bug in qbsp where clip brushes don't contribute to the physics bounding box of the model

Fixed in TyrUtils apparently. 
Awesome Thanks 
but now they show up ingame with the skip texture, how do i prevent that? 
 
What compiler are you using? 
 
ne_q1sp with txqbsp 
Txqbsp 
I have no idea if that supports skip brushes. Try Tyrann's tools first. They are the most up-to-date, and most fully-featured. 
 
you can also run newskip.exe after running any version of qbsp, to hide the skip brushes. But there are qbsp versions that do it automatically. 
Thanks Again 
that did the job 
Antivirus 
M.S.E.



 
Tyranns tools are pretty old compared to he newest tx_qbspxt versions.
Not to mention they are some dimensions slower. 
Dimensions? 
What are you talking about?
Both are fast, as to say they both take only seconds even on a map with 12000 brushes. 
Seconds May Be A Bit Too Optimistic 
Just wanted to do a back to back test on bbin1. XT takes about two minutes iirc; tyrqbsp crashes... 
 
Yeah, The Hell That's Coming was a few minutes worth of QBSP time ... all those portal errors add up. :) 
Is It Bsp2 Or Bsp? 
8m30s for tyr vs 1m14s for txqbsp_xt.exe in wine. 
Huh! 
and tyr's used more of everything in the WriteBSP table. Up to 30% more clipnodes and 10% more vertices, marksurfaces. 
I Stand Corrected 
Same here, the splitting txqbsp_xt does seems to be more efficient than i thought.

And its faster, yes. 
Gtk-based Editors 
Hello, very quick question - what's the latest/best Radiant-derived editor to use for Quake (1) these days? 
NetRadiant Imho 
I'm a fan of netradiant. It's not perfect, and I'm not even sure anyone is still working on it, but it feels very solid. I did have to remap all the hotkeys in the latest version though to get it how I like it. 
Netradiant 
Right, that's what I was using - I thought it seemed a bit on the buggy side in windows 8 
 
Windows 8 I don't know, I use 7. It does have some bugs in it.

Trenchbroom was cool, but I ran into a bunch of bugs with the version I was using. It takes a bit to learn coming from radiant, but it totally seems like the benefit to workflow would outweigh the hassle in the end since it all takes place through the camera without any orthographic views.

Plus it's actively being worked on by people here, so you can bug them about it. 
 
Trenchbroom seems too awkward for me - I'm very much from the old school of needing to lay things out precisely in 2d views. It seems to take too long for me to place things properly in TB.

Next question - in netradiant, is it possible to specify in the .ent file default values on certain entities? e.g. so that a newly placed light would always start with specific light, wait, delay values etc? 
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