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is something that I wish I could use for other id tech games. but sadly I can't seem to get it to work for anything other than q1.
hehe, WarrenM, since Im mapping on OS X I just have the commands separated by semicolon, so it compiles/lights the map and copies it to QuakeSpasm/id1/maps . Launching QuakeSpasm is a single click, and I have +map argument already pre-filled
I started over. This is my progress with a new map during my lunch breaks.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/dvcqytcnk66fvzz/QuakeJam_WIP_2.jpg?dl=0 Nothing too impressive, but I am getting things done and feeling pretty good about the results even if things will be a bit more blocky then I wanted initially, but I am already 1/4 the way through it on two lunch breaks and 3 hours this evening. Looks like you guys were right, this map is probably not going to compile
compile.... Time q3bsp? Or just give up.... :P Looks like you guys were right, this map is probably not going to compile
compile.... Time q3bsp? Or just give up.... :P Get the q3bsp ball rolling! If enough people start doing it, it will become a thing. Ehh, then I'll just release it later as standalone.
It would be cool if q3bsp was a thing but lack of lightmap styles support is a real bummer Oh well, Goodluck to everyone! It would be cool if q3bsp was a thing but lack of lightmap styles support is a real bummer
Lack of lightstyles is totally a price worth paying. *firecoal and *hotslag don't start with *lava and are therefore treated as water. They don't hurt when you fall in, in Quakespasm. Am I missing something?
Is the "skip" texturename the same as caulk when making a q3 map? What I mean to say is, will it be a removed face and improve performance in the exact same manner as caulk? Also, is there a texturename to make a brush invisible and not fire-through-able -- if you get my drift. Clip allows one to fire through it. The liquid properties are connected to the texture name, so you need to rename them, include "lava" in the title.
Skip in Quake is not like caulk. It just creates a solid invisible face/brush, without affecting the performance. Requires a compiler that supports it or an additional tool to remove the skip surfaces from the bsp. Note that in Darkplaces, monsters will see the player through 'skipped' surfaces. This wad has fixed versions of *firecoal and *hotslag.
Also, is there a texturename to make a brush invisible and not fire-through-able This is skip. So then, skip textures aren't optimised out by the compiler? So I can save a great deal of time by just selecting a brush and applying the same texture to every side? Seems wrong.
the compiler removes faces outside of the map. in fact, from what I understand, it has never been necessary to put caulk/skip on the outside of brushes because all engine compilers remove those faces anyway.
it is more for removing faces that are necessary to seal the map, but that the player can never see, or for structural geometry hidden behind meshes. Having regular non-skip textures facing the void, touching or intersecting other brushes is totally fine, all of those will be optimized out by qbsp.
IMO skip is good if you need it for some special effect, but it's probably rare that it's important for optimization. It's ROLL CALL time once again! Post your wip images here and leave feedback for other designers!
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