#14482 posted by Newhouse on 2017/01/15 18:42:31
@Kinn
Thank you, so fill lights are okay.. I assume I need to start using them in a darker areas. I know they aren't as bright as main light if set to be weaker, what I tried to ask was "how to make it blend well together with main lights / be smooth) what delay is good for fill lights?
@Rick
Thank you. Really didn't notice that it was just the lightmap (I must be blind).
#14483 posted by dwere on 2017/01/15 18:48:23
It's not like there'd be any difference between lightmapped white textures and displaying the lightmap directly.
 Screenshots
#14484 posted by adib on 2017/01/15 18:56:57
Maybe it's too late to complain, but where are the screenshots? This is becoming another mapping help thread.
 Boom! Screenshot From My Latest Project
#14485 posted by Naitelveni on 2017/01/15 22:33:05
http://i.imgur.com/uSLqXZD.jpg
playing around with lights, color blends, wait values shadows and highlights...
 Nait
That looks interesting. I'd recommend a bit more texture variation but that's about it :)
 @Naitelveni
#14487 posted by Newhouse on 2017/01/16 02:27:11
It looks good just the way it is, just keep playing around with lights and it will turn out great*
 Neato
#14488 posted by Mugwump on 2017/01/16 04:25:25
But yeah, I tend to agree with Fifth.
 Yuip.
#14489 posted by Shambler on 2017/01/16 11:36:20
What Fifth said, good and bad.
 I Like That Lighting
#14490 posted by nitin on 2017/01/17 06:02:00
 Re:Lighting Info
#14491 posted by oGkspAz on 2017/01/17 17:55:43
(It's been a while)
Lighting has been an issue for me as I haven't really experimented at all.
Having read https://shoresofnis.wordpress.com/guides/lighting-basics/ &
https://spawnhost.wordpress.com/2012/03/14/quake-1-lighting/ I found I kinda get the basics but pages like the abovementioned http://quaketastic.com/files/LightTest.jpg
and especially the images on http://ericwa.github.io/tyrutils-ericw/ are exactly the kind of things that I've been looking for to better understand what to do where.
 Is That
#14492 posted by Qmaster on 2017/01/17 18:24:30
A red sky in the back naitel?
#14493 posted by Naitelveni on 2017/01/17 21:40:03
its a skybox from AD, i had a difficult time on thinking about the surroundings, its still a working progress, i was thinking about building structures in the background... we shall see...
 Perhaps A Lighting Tips Thread?
Especially since this is evolving a bit as compilers add features like phong etc.
Also re: #14455 ericw that's a very cool feature. I've used surface lights a lot, being able to tweak them is going to be great moving forward.
 @Nailtelveni
#14495 posted by R00k on 2017/01/18 04:37:26
http://imgur.com/uSLqXZD
lighting is smooth as butter!
 Just The Quick Question
#14496 posted by Newhouse on 2017/01/19 13:07:14
How is the lighting looking? These are going to be default lights, then depending on situation there will be lights from other sources too. But making sure that if I create darker places, there is still enough light to navigate without problems.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BwxYkKdSD855MVpBU25EVHVvRzQ/view?usp=sharing
#14497 posted by mjb on 2017/01/19 13:11:38
Looks really good man, I admire the amount of pre-planning you do for your creations.
The light in the glass looks really nice. Everything else looks good too.
 Looks Good To Me.
#14498 posted by Shambler on 2017/01/19 13:50:45
 @Bloughsburgh @dumptruck_ds
#14499 posted by Newhouse on 2017/01/19 13:57:23
Thank you! These are elements that should have that consistency, especially moving platforms. I don't want to make peoples life harder than what it already is. My retro jam 8 map was a mistake in that sense.
Thanks to dumptruck_ds for helping me with door lights. I'm planning using them for doors that has lights attached (larger doors). I want to give different doors different purpose when to use them in a scene. Larger doors are like the biggest goal (depending on the scene), and also has this wow light effect. Giving a little reward for the player in a mental state. Then every larger door also opens slower than smaller ones, but I really need to play with timing, since players don't want to wait too long (yeah, it is a big deal, just come on open already).
Glowing window(s) is kind of.. focus point(s), where player immediately looks at, because it has the strongest contrast in brightness compared to other elements.
#14500 posted by Newhouse on 2017/01/19 13:58:28
Correcting typos.. retrojam6*
 Naitel And Newh
#14501 posted by adib on 2017/01/19 14:37:13
Naitelveni since you're already nailing it, I would go further and dare more contrast. Backup your work and light up this lava, make it look hotter. You could try a little stronger and darker sky light as well. And I would choose a skybox that matches the color you chose for the sky light.
Newhouse, it looks great, but don't you think the doors should have light fixtures? Maybe the doorway could have a texture like this one you used on the open door.
 @adib
#14502 posted by Newhouse on 2017/01/19 15:13:09
Sorry I'm still noob with these lighting techniques, what is light fixture? I just placed on back and front these delay 0 lights to high-light them a bit.. also I tried that surface lighting, I put on sides of doors surface light textures and they worked tbh. If light fixtures will look better, then I gladly would like to try them out.
Also that glowing window used surface lighting.
 Newhouse
#14503 posted by adib on 2017/01/19 15:28:03
A light fixture is a lamp, for example. What I mean is: your light is more believable if it looks like coming from a source. The surface lights you made are perfect: it's lamp textures "emitting" those lights. That metal plate full of little spots make perfect sense. But when I look at the doorways, where is this light coming from?
 #14494
I wanted to do a lighting thread for a while now, I have an idea for it but I'll have time in a month or so.
 @adib
#14505 posted by Newhouse on 2017/01/19 16:16:29
Yes, indeed I didn't use this door light logic yet in that scene. But basically I will turn on lights when door opens. It will not be as pretty as in modern sci-fi bases, but at least something. I have couple ideas how to make it look natural yet cool (we will see).
Also I added couple lights inside those slots where doors goes in when opened, I wanted them not to be pitch black.. maybe I just need to turn down values a bit.
Of course for some doors I will add extra lamps in front and back. But it really depends on the scene I will set up.
 Hc1beta: "implo1t Dys3ngage" Beta
#14506 posted by hexcalk on 2017/01/21 22:49:23
So finally, I just have this map almost complete. It has Daikatana textures and is Japanese-themed.
Here is the Quaketastic download link: http://www.quaketastic.com/files/single_player/maps/hc1beta.bsp
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