Jury-Rigged BJP Tools work OK. Thank you. 

1) How does one make a crusher in standard Quake (i.e. no Quoth, etc.)?

I tried to do it with a func_door, but the door seems just to stop when there is a monster in its way, instead of, well, crushing said monster.

Then I changed the func_door into a func_train and placed two path_corner entities in the map, but I cannot get that setup to work properly at all -- when the crusher gets triggered, it just disappears instead of moving downwards. Plus I cannot figure out exactly where to put those path_corners in TrenchBroom (I found some online guides, but they all refer to other editors, with 2d views, e.g. this one).

2) Also, how do I get something trigger-able with two buttons, i.e. that both buttons are required to trigger the thing? I've got two buttons set up with the same target, but now they trigger the target separately (i.e. if I push one I don't need to push the other).

Thanks in advance! 

Targeted func_door and give it a 'dmg' value.

Enjoy! http://quakewiki.org/wiki/Getting_Started_Mapping 

Thanks very much ijed. That clears up the first issue.

I still cannot figure how to make two (or more) buttons work together, though (there's nothing about that on quakewiki.org -- not that I can see, anyway). 

Trigger_counter does the trick, it�s all explained in the wiki. 

Thanks, mfx.

There is no entry for "trigger counter", though (just a blank template) and no mention of trigger_counter on the func_button or func_door pages. I would never have thought of looking up "trigger counter" if you had not mentioned it.

And I still don't know what to do with it... 

2 buttons, both targeting the counter.

Trigger_counter is a point entity, and has the following keys:

targetname: Used to target the counter.

count: Numerical value of how many buttons do i need to press, to activate(in your case 2). Basically how many events it needs to be activated.

target: What should be "fired" when count is reached. In your case the targetname of the door.

message: This text is printed on the screen when the counter fires. Like: A door opens nearby, hoohoho..

delay: delay in seconds before the counter fires.

Spawnflag 1 turns off the messages of the count. (Only one more to go) 

Thank you so much. You have just made my life a whole lot easier.

I've been scratching my head over this for a couple of hours now, trying various things that did not work and trying to find the answers elsewhere before asking here.

What is on quakewiki.org is great and has helped me tremendously before (the Getting Started Mapping guide is great), but there are many gaps... 

is now you create an account there an update the wiki.
I suck at formatting. 

if this throttles you.. 

Did signup even work? I think I need to setup a mail server D: 

If you happen to get across something like that again. Check what the entity does here.

http://www.quakewiki.net/archives/worldcraft/index2.shtm 

I got an confirmation mail link.
And can log in. 

Cocerello: Thanks! I came across that site once in the past, but then I couldn't find it again. I have now bookmarked it.

mfx: Very likely -- once I've learned some more; i.e. once I have leveled up and am no longer a total newbie. 

awesome 

 

Because I assumed it was not working. The stuff on quaddicted.com at least needs some love from me to be able to mail again. 

I can�t help you there.

But i always wanted to update the wiki, or add missing parts.

Maybe someday..:) 

a mail server to be able to send emails. 

Couldn't keep my hands of the Sinlevel "Gogre".

Something in the map's layout was puzzling my fantasy in the way the long road stretches out the whole outstreching level.
The ground under it is builed on several layers and gives a very canyon atmosphere.

Converted it to quake and got a nasty pack of homs on my plate but now it fits well.

U 4 = bad 

That archived Worldcraft page Cocerello linked to, while very useful, doesn't say anything about trigger_counter on its func_door and func_button entries either. So without mfx's explanation I would have been lost anyway. Thanks again, mfx!

Also, while said page does have a trigger_counter entry, it lists only three variables, instead of the six mfx listed. Does anyone know of a site that has a complete list of all entities and all variables in Quake (i.e. including the things one cannot find on that Worldcraft page)? 

As said on the func_counter entry, it works on any entities triggering it with the ''target'' field and trigger any trigeareable entity that matches the ''target'' field it has (that includes fun_doors and func_buttons as they are triggeareable).

The variables that webpage has are the ones that were known back in 1996, those that Mfx posted are those that you could see in subsequent years.

About oher sources of information. On the wiki, on the entity list page, on the top part of it, there is a link for an old web with info. Maybe you can fill the gaps with it. 

Yeah, what I mean is that the problem is that the converse information is not there -- if you already know about trigger_counter entities, then that's great.

However if, like me, you just knew about func_door and func_button entities and were trying to get the two to interact in the right way, then there is sadly nothing on either quakewiki.org or on on the The Forge that tells you you should be looking at "trigger_counter". (A simple "see also: trigger counter" would have helped tremendously. As it stands, the entries on The Forge just say "see also: func_door_secret, func_plat" and "see also: trigger_once, trigger_multiple" respectively.)

As for adding the missing information myself (as mfx also suggested), I may very well do so soon, but as I am still currently learning, it would be great if there were a source of up-to-date information I could refer to. Hence my question. 

There is of course always the option of asking in this thread (and people have been incredibly helpful here), but I usually try to figure things out on my own and to use the information that is already on the internet, before posting questions here. 

There are not that many entities. If you're using an editor that shows you the fields then just open it and start plonking entities in to find out what they do.

Some entities are test stuff or only useful in very specific situations, but most do work for something.

All games have their entities built around a structure that can be learned.

It would be nice for 'someone' to update the wiki, and possibly even write some simple tutorials. I'd like to, if I could find the time and energy aside from everything else.

That sort of stuff has existed, but gotten lost over time as websites have been closed or been forgotten.