That should have been the first thing to try before resizing the space if only because it was the easiest fix. Unless it's in the players view right as the level starts it's a good idea to raise everything inside a bounding box well off of the floor (even more than 16 units if you can) because of how Quake deals with them. Sometimes the item gets put in before the clipping hull is put in (just by milliseconds) but items will start to fall right away until they hit that hull and if it's past that hull by even one unit it will fall through and disappear.

It has to do with where they are in the .map file that the BSP compiler will use to determine the order of placement and most editors do that sort of randomly (I'm sure that there is some sort of logic to it but damned if I know what it is). 

Hi, I use QuArK but when I compile map with TyrUtils qbsp, the textures are upside-down. I tried -oldaxis option but it doesn't seem to have any effect.

Maps compiled with Bengt Jardrup qbsp and hmap look OK, but these tools don't have func_detail, which I need. Is there some way to flip the textures back in TyrUtils qbsp or some other way to get around this problem? 

Lawrence
use these tools:
voidspark.net/projects/bjptools_xt/

They have all you need. 

-oldaxis 

Jury-Rigged BJP Tools work OK. Thank you. 

1) How does one make a crusher in standard Quake (i.e. no Quoth, etc.)?

I tried to do it with a func_door, but the door seems just to stop when there is a monster in its way, instead of, well, crushing said monster.

Then I changed the func_door into a func_train and placed two path_corner entities in the map, but I cannot get that setup to work properly at all -- when the crusher gets triggered, it just disappears instead of moving downwards. Plus I cannot figure out exactly where to put those path_corners in TrenchBroom (I found some online guides, but they all refer to other editors, with 2d views, e.g. this one).

2) Also, how do I get something trigger-able with two buttons, i.e. that both buttons are required to trigger the thing? I've got two buttons set up with the same target, but now they trigger the target separately (i.e. if I push one I don't need to push the other).

Thanks in advance! 

Targeted func_door and give it a 'dmg' value.

Enjoy! http://quakewiki.org/wiki/Getting_Started_Mapping 

Thanks very much ijed. That clears up the first issue.

I still cannot figure how to make two (or more) buttons work together, though (there's nothing about that on quakewiki.org -- not that I can see, anyway). 

Trigger_counter does the trick, it�s all explained in the wiki. 

Thanks, mfx.

There is no entry for "trigger counter", though (just a blank template) and no mention of trigger_counter on the func_button or func_door pages. I would never have thought of looking up "trigger counter" if you had not mentioned it.

And I still don't know what to do with it... 

2 buttons, both targeting the counter.

Trigger_counter is a point entity, and has the following keys:

targetname: Used to target the counter.

count: Numerical value of how many buttons do i need to press, to activate(in your case 2). Basically how many events it needs to be activated.

target: What should be "fired" when count is reached. In your case the targetname of the door.

message: This text is printed on the screen when the counter fires. Like: A door opens nearby, hoohoho..

delay: delay in seconds before the counter fires.

Spawnflag 1 turns off the messages of the count. (Only one more to go) 

Thank you so much. You have just made my life a whole lot easier.

I've been scratching my head over this for a couple of hours now, trying various things that did not work and trying to find the answers elsewhere before asking here.

What is on quakewiki.org is great and has helped me tremendously before (the Getting Started Mapping guide is great), but there are many gaps... 

is now you create an account there an update the wiki.
I suck at formatting. 

if this throttles you.. 

Did signup even work? I think I need to setup a mail server D: 

If you happen to get across something like that again. Check what the entity does here.

http://www.quakewiki.net/archives/worldcraft/index2.shtm 

I got an confirmation mail link.
And can log in. 

Cocerello: Thanks! I came across that site once in the past, but then I couldn't find it again. I have now bookmarked it.

mfx: Very likely -- once I've learned some more; i.e. once I have leveled up and am no longer a total newbie. 

awesome 

 

Because I assumed it was not working. The stuff on quaddicted.com at least needs some love from me to be able to mail again. 

I can�t help you there.

But i always wanted to update the wiki, or add missing parts.

Maybe someday..:) 

a mail server to be able to send emails. 

Couldn't keep my hands of the Sinlevel "Gogre".

Something in the map's layout was puzzling my fantasy in the way the long road stretches out the whole outstreching level.
The ground under it is builed on several layers and gives a very canyon atmosphere.

Converted it to quake and got a nasty pack of homs on my plate but now it fits well.

U 4 = bad 

That archived Worldcraft page Cocerello linked to, while very useful, doesn't say anything about trigger_counter on its func_door and func_button entries either. So without mfx's explanation I would have been lost anyway. Thanks again, mfx!

Also, while said page does have a trigger_counter entry, it lists only three variables, instead of the six mfx listed. Does anyone know of a site that has a complete list of all entities and all variables in Quake (i.e. including the things one cannot find on that Worldcraft page)?