been hanging with Gotshun while he finishes up his next level.
Cool, I'll be curious to see what he comes up with next.

don't let them force you into a corner of darkness only.
I don't think that was their point. As I understood it, it was more about being mindful of not having a too flat lighting. Bright areas are just as fine as dark areas, providing that you keep your lighting interesting. Colored lights help with that too, which is what was missing from mukor's previous screenshots. 

https://twitter.com/muk0r/status/795028502722605058?s=09

Ligting is mostly figured out. Ive got all the entites chained together and the map is playable up to the gold door.

Im still working on ideas for puzzle for the final sequence. Sorry Daz but youre gonna have to jump. :)

This map uses AD. So far its just custom keys really. Id like to use breakables but to match the knave brick, Id need to retexture the existing brick breakables included with AD. I believe i could learn this in a weekend. Id be using QME and Wally to do it...correct? 

Nice new pic. Though if I may voice a little nitpick, the small archways on the sides of the large one look a bit weird without pillars or portions of wall to support them. I think adding pillars would make them at the same time more architecturally correct and nicer to look at. 

Agreed. They are just flying. Maybe high corbels instead of pillars, so you don't steal space from player, on the ground. 

Them floating is kind of why I liked them. Makes em feel "otherworldly".

Ill take it into consideration and Ill design something to swap and see how it looks/feels. Ive a couple ideas in mind.

I figured out breakables. A lot easier than i thought. really happy to offer "custom" content in my first map.

http://imgur.com/zHU1laz

for the curious/uninformed, heres the excerpt from the AD readme:

"To create your own custom rubble the new bmodels should be setup in sets of 4
(roughly 8/16/24/32 units in size) and specified with the brkobj1-4 keys.
There are plenty of example map files under the 'maps/brk' directory which
can be re-painted to suit your needs. Always create any custom bmodels in
the map directory so that they can be grouped together with the map files.

It is recommended that all new bmodels be compiled with minimum lighting
using the following command line (tycompiler\light -light 150) The light
value (150) should be changed to suit the location of the breakable." 

Them floating is kind of why I liked them. Makes em feel "otherworldly".
Alright then, it's your map after all, we wouldn't want to dictate your style. Still looking forward to it any way! 

Looks sweet, I'll have to remember how it easy it is when I am ready to include those in my map. 

Is there any interest in book textures made from the books on the shelves in the Knave textures?

http://imgur.com/q3tW7dJ

I think a better question is...should I ask Kell before doing so? is he still active in the community? I checked the other day and his last login here was in 2009? :\ perhaps he uses a different moniker?

My reasoning for making it is to make it easier to make books protrude from shelves, without having to stretch the shelf texture, which can prove a little awkward at times. I also wanted to add a "paper" texture to the side of the books.

http://imgur.com/M4c0LXc 

Want to actually share something to help with the motivation factors/just to showcase.

http://www.quaketastic.com/files/screen_shots/mjb_jail.jpg

First pass on lighting, only really detailed room I currently have haha. 

I already made paper texture that's tan. Book textures wouls be cool. Would make interesting rubble for a custom bookshelf breakable too. 

+1 for tan paper. i think imma switch mine. is yours a piece of paper or the edge of a book? link to your textures perhaps? id like to check em out. ive seen you reference them a couple times now. 

Lighting looks great in that. Good scene overall. Really elegant effects. 

Thanks Shambler,

I am hesitant of releasing WIP shots due to my own unfairly strict standards I set for myself but I personally really enjoy what I have here.

The good thing is even though I spent a fair amount of time working on this single room, I now have a template for lighting that I can easily reproduce in future areas! 

Looks great Bloughsburgh. Lighting and fog looks good. i dig the ceiling and the walls. Maybe try and spruce the floor up a little. Add a border...or maybe a "path" down the middle.

I finished the books last night. Well, mostly. i might rework the "paper" part.

https://twitter.com/muk0r/status/796301088924303360

Theres 29 total. I did them all in one 128x128 but im thinking it might be better to go with 4 32x32s. Its a bit hard to work with at 128 units. The paper would be best scaled at .5 but you can get away with just 1.

I believe these are easy enough to make sense of? Can you guys easily tell which part is the spine and which is the cover of the book?

Ill likely include a sample .map with these just for the sake of clarity. 

First of all mukor, the amount of effort you are exerting towards the small details makes me look forward to your release more and more.

They look great, I'll be sure to inspect that book texture goodness.

Great idea about adding detail to my floor, I seem to always forget about that aspect of a room. I believe I know what you mean, like create a center aisle with a partnering texture. 

Ive probably been mapping way longer than I care to think about so its about time I give back to a community that has given me so much.

Im one of those guys with a Quake tattoo, if that explains anything. 

I think the paper part would look better if it contained a part of the book spine. 

I wasnt sure how to acheive that while keeping the total number of textures low. My thought process was to do it like that, id need individual textures for every book and I feel like thats just too many textures for some books.

The way I was using em was to use 4 brushes to make a book. One for each cover, the paper and spine.

http://imgur.com/LlfOVHv

First texture, btw, so Im definitely open to all kinds of input. At some point after I finish this map, I plan on using these textures to build a breakable bookshelf or two. an explosion of paper, wood, and bits of books. Too much workload for right now, though. 

Looks good. So these are jail cells? They remind me of some famous parisian former wine cellars: https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2826/13223588323_d68cc899a6_b.jpg 

I wish I could say that is where I got the reference from but actually I just diddled with brushes to make things look purty.

Being an otherworld jail place, I give myself creative liberties to do whatever haha. Trying to steer away from standard cell block expectations. 

After your MJ7 map, I have no doubt that you'll steer away from expectations... which reminds me that I need to play your first map sometime. 

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Awesome, super cool to see new maps being made!

I like the water on the ceiling, giving me some E4 vibes. 

Thanks, glad you like it. I'm planning to use water as an alternate means of transport, replacing lifts etc.