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Since you're working on MDLs, and if you're interested, here's a better way of evaluating mins and maxs: http://pastebin.com/aCTyXjjm (this just reverses the calculation from modelgen.c)
And here you can recalculate normals (again, based on code from modelgen.c): http://pastebin.com/AMdpeB7Z The anorms table is just an icosahedron subdivided twice so that can also be calculated in code if you like. How can I copy the text from gl_info to a file?
Not sure if this helps but here is the stdout.txt Command line: C:\id\QUAKE\quakespasm.exe -sndspeed 44100 -heapsize 92000 -surfcachesize 320000 +crosshair 0 -zone 65536 -game aq Found SDL version 1.2.15 Quake 1.09 (c) id Software GLQuake 1.00 (c) id Software FitzQuake 0.85 (c) John Fitzgibbons FitzQuake SDL port (c) SleepwalkR, Baker QuakeSpasm 0.90.0 (c) Ozkan Sezer, Stevenaaus Host_Init Playing registered version. Console initialized. UDP Initialized WIPX_OpenSocket: Address family not supported by protocol family WIPX_Init: Unable to open control socket, IPX disabled Exe: 14:28:31 Sep 29 2014 89.8 megabyte heap Video mode 1600x900x32 (24-bit z-buffer, 0x FSAA) initialized FOUND: ARB_vertex_buffer_object FOUND: ARB_multitexture GL_MAX_TEXTURE_UNITS: 8 FOUND: ARB_texture_env_combine FOUND: ARB_texture_env_add Warning: vertical sync not supported (SDL_GL_GetAttribute failed) FOUND: EXT_texture_filter_anisotropic FOUND: GL_ARB_texture_non_power_of_two Intel Display Adapter detected, enabling gl_clear Sound Initialization SDL audio spec : 44100 Hz, 1024 samples, 2 channels SDL audio driver: dsound, 65536 bytes buffer Audio: 16 bit, stereo, 44100 Hz SDL detected 0 CD-ROM drives ========= Quake Initialized ========= execing quake.rc execing default.cfg execing config.cfg execing aqalias.cfg Unknown command "r_maxsurfs" Unknown command "r_maxedges" execing autoexec.cfg Unknown command "#bind" execing airsay.rc Airsay.rc v0.9 (21.10.97) Radio communications script for AirQuake By FM1_Echo and FM1_Bravo Based on SayTeam.rc v1.3 by John Laessig http://tyr.nimad.fi/~fullmoon 3 demo(s) in loop ]gl_info GL_VENDOR: Intel GL_RENDERER: Intel(R) HD Graphics 4000 GL_VERSION: 4.0.0 - Build 9.17.10.2963 GL_EXTENSIONS: GL_EXT_blend_minmax GL_EXT_blend_subtract GL_EXT_blend_color GL_EXT_abgr GL_EXT_texture3D GL_EXT_clip_volume_hint GL_EXT_compiled_vertex_array GL_SGIS_texture_edge_clamp GL_SGIS_generate_mipmap GL_EXT_draw_range_elements GL_SGIS_texture_lod GL_EXT_rescale_normal GL_EXT_packed_pixels GL_EXT_texture_edge_clamp GL_EXT_separate_specular_color GL_ARB_multitexture GL_EXT_texture_env_combine GL_EXT_bgra GL_EXT_blend_func_separate GL_EXT_secondary_color GL_EXT_fog_coord GL_EXT_texture_env_add GL_ARB_texture_cube_map GL_ARB_transpose_matrix GL_ARB_texture_env_add GL_IBM_texture_mirrored_repeat GL_EXT_multi_draw_arrays GL_SUN_multi_draw_arrays GL_NV_blend_square GL_ARB_texture_compression GL_3DFX_texture_compression_FXT1 GL_EXT_texture_filter_anisotropic GL_ARB_texture_border_clamp GL_ARB_point_parameters GL_ARB_texture_env_combine GL_ARB_texture_env_dot3 GL_ARB_texture_env_crossbar GL_EXT_Shutting down SDL sound can ambient sounds be made to always loop even if do not contain a repeat node?
*Read files directly from the game folder, so user can drag & drop models/sounds etc I can see these two would be convenient for modding, but would be incompatible with other engines so I'm not sure. Actually there are a few engines that also read from the folders: directq and i think qrack the ambient sound looping would also be really useful >Bugs when "R_novis 1": models, doors and sprites are not visible when looking into the water, and while submerged looking out >Requests r_telealpha, r_lavaalpha, r_slimealpha; those commands don't exist ; r_wateralpha affects all fluids i think the ambient sound looping feature is bad because it would encourage the creation of less compatible content for no good reason.
Also, it wouldn't even solve the problem fully because looping is needed for more than just ambients. How about a simple command-line tool to convert any wave file to looping? This would help modders just as much and the results would be compatible with all engines. You can do looping with http://www.wavosaur.com/ which is freeware!
r_novis 1 turns off vis testing client side which only affects the world model and static entities (torches, func_illusionary,
Server side, the server is still checking to see if an entity is in a visibility leaf. DirectQ has sv_novis 1 which turns off server-side visibility checking against entities (sprites, doors, monsters). sv_novis is probably on in your DirectQ. ranger, the gl_info output looks ok, only thing i can suggest is try with a clean config if you haven't already. i've tested QS on the hd 4000 i think (recent-ish intel graphics, anyway) and IIRC it can handle even the largest releases like the rubicon pack decently.
"gamedir should be a single directory name, not a path"
How to make the engine accept path (like addon/czg07) as valid argument for gamedir again? deleting the config did nothing
but removing the heapsize surfcachesize zone args from the CL has removed the lag Hey Baker, are you interested in refreshing the QS build in http://quakeone.com/proquake/Quakespasm_Steam_Easy_Install.exe ?
>Bugs
*sometimes the player gets stuck/stopped going down ramps/slopes *sometimes the mouse randomly goes crazy and makes the camera spin wildly *When loading maps digs05, digs06 the following appear in the console: The anomaly Using protocol 666 Couldn't find a cdrip for track 0 player entered the game ]map digs06 Client player removed Warning: 40068 faces exceeds standard limit of 32767. Warning: 48772 marksurfaces exceeds standard limit of 32767. Warning: 36832 clipnodes exceeds standard limit of 32767. Warning: 9667 visleafs exceeds standard limit of 8192. Warning: 9394 byte signon buffer exceeds standard limit of 7998. FITZQUAKE 0.85 SERVER (51103 CRC) The Anomaly 2: Water Using protocol 666 Warning: 370 models exceeds standard limit of 256. Warning: 69 lightmaps exceeds standard limit of 64. Couldn't find a cdrip for track 0 player entered the game Warning: 913 edicts exceeds standard limit of 600. *There is a lot of Z-fighting visible on maps *sometimes the player gets stuck/stopped going down ramps/slopes
Do you have host_maxfps above 72? Frames per second above 72 will cause physics problems in most Quake engines in single player. [Main exceptions: DarkPlaces and the last couple of version of DirectQ because they have framerate independent server and therefore physics. No Quakeworld engine (like FTEQW) would have this issue either.] I'm not presuming to speak on behalf of the QS devs but I do feel that this needs to be said.
You really shouldn't be reporting many of these things as bugs. If you actually read the text, you'll see that most of them are just simple notifications that standard Quake map limits are exceeded (which is OK because QS can support the higher limits) or that MP3 music is unavailable for the map you're loading. These are not bugs. Now, it could be argued (and I have done so in the past) that they shouldn't be displayed to players, but that aside, reporting them as bugs is just wasting people's time. Regarding z-fighting, it was already dealt with before, and z-fighting is a content bug, not an engine bug. Again, bringing up an issue that's already been dealt with, and doing so without adding anything new to the discussion, is also wasting people's time. I could add something here about one of the reasons why I bailed out of engine development being terminal annoyance at constant badgering of this nature, but - oh wait, I already have. >Bugs
*Not sure if it's a bug or a limitation, but models with an internal skin taller than 480 cause qs to crash... because qme allows models to have skins with a max height of 512 @mh Actually it is a bug: the maps, esp the second map, lag in qs as well as interfere with the player's weapon anim lerp (due to the lag/overflow etc) I don't know enough about zfighting but i believed that it could be solved via modifications to the renderer? @baker my host_maxfps is 72 Skins with max height of 480 is an original limitation of the engine. Width (as far as I know) has no limit though.
why would a too-tall skin cause a crash? YOu'd think it would at least give an error message and quit to console, or even better, load it correctly but with a warning.
Now, it could be argued (and I have done so in the past) that they shouldn't be displayed to players, but that aside, reporting them as bugs is just wasting people's time.
I see your perspective, but I felt that the warnings would be useless if they required Developer 1, since i don't think many mappers use that setting. Quakespasm 0.90 has worked great and I've lately enjoyed playing jam3_mfx among other cool maps. However, I came across a minor issue, which I think is a visual glitch.
There is a room in the said map with four bloodfalls and a gib fountain dropping gibs into the center of the room. Two of the bloodfalls show the other bloodfalls when viewed through them, but since they are not otherwise transparent this seems a little off. The other two are not seethru at all. http://imgur.com/Cy8wvUT Here is a reduced-size screenshot which shows four images in one. The top and bottom ones show this effect, and the middle two ones do not. These four pics are all from different sides of the room. As usual, I'm asking whether this happens to other QS users. I am using QS 0.90 compiled on Linux64 using SDL2 from the source release. The cmd-line options were -game jam3 and -heapsize 70000 (because I don't like typing numbers with five significant figures...) I think that's the lack of depth-sorting transparent surfaces (FitzQuake does the same.) It's on my list of stuff to fix in qs at some point :-)
the same glitch is visible in the Rubicon pack in a few places (the entrance slipgate of telefragged, the exit of the credits map). The issue of fog is that getting the right balance between what players expect and what mappers want isn't easy.
If a player sets fog from the console and if it's cleared on a map transition they will probably report it as a bug. If a map doesn't include a fog key in it's worldspawn as a way of indicating "no fog here, please", but if fog persists between maps, then it's also a reportable bug. Mix in mods that send svc_fog messages (or stuffcmd it - bleagh) during gameplay and you've a mess. This is a classic case of a feature that fights itself. As an engine coder you just can't win, and no matter what you do (or if you just say "what a clusterfuck" and don't implement fog at all) you'll have someone pissed at you.
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