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Not Sure 
It's easy to get obsessive and waste a lot of time getting everything perfect.

A good release stands on its own, warts and all. 
You Got That Right 
It's easy to get obsessive and waste a lot of time getting everything perfect.

I'm trying for not too many warts.
It's getting closer. 
How Do I Use An External BSP? 
Do I just put the brushes in an empty map, run bsp and light and then place it in a different map using info_notnull or something like that? 
Rick 
Do I just put the brushes in an empty map, run bsp and light and then place it in a different map

yes, be sure to place the bsp in your progs folder.

using info_notnull or something like that?

i use the Quoth mapobject_custom entity, has mangle and such.

At least thats what i do, not sure if vanilla progs handles this so easy.. 
 
yes, be sure to place the bsp in your progs folder.

you can use progs/map.bsp or maps/map.bsp and both will work for the model path. only sounds are hardcoded to be in sound/xxxxx 
Append 
in fact, it's generally good practice to put any external bsps in a subfolder so you can keep things clean. unless you want to use a pak file in which case it matters less. 
 
Okay, thanks. Now, how do I place the external bsp into my map? 
Than 
how is the newest remake going? 
BSP2/2PSB WorldCraft To Radiant? 
Trying to open some .map files saved with WC in Radiant but keep getting.

parse error at '[': expected '#number'

The maps are also BSP2 sized.
GB, you have experience with this? 
Spiney 
WC uses a different .map format from Radiant.

I don't know if WC has other limits that could possibly be BSP2 related; the only thing I think I have heard is that it can't properly display maps that are bigger than 8192x8192.

There is a converter program by a person called Scrama, I believe, you might have some luck using the quakeone.com forum search. It is somewhat obscure though. You will also have to convert the texture wads between WC and Radiant. :-s

If it only needs to be done once, using some converter is acceptable, but daily WC <-> Radiant conversion in any halfway productive environment, eg in a team setting, isn't very good for the workflow. I have lovely memories of this problem from RMQ. 
God Bless Standardization 
I thought the only difference was .rmf
yay! 
I Just Need The Brushes Though 
It's for something of a spinoff map... 
Spiney 
I'm not 100% and can't check right now, but I think TB will load this map fine and save it as a standard .map file. Although the texture alignment info will be fucked, naturally. 
Sleepwalkr 
Actually, I just remember I did use TB for exactly this in the past... must have been some hazy late night troubleshooting, haha. I'll try that! :) 
 
That is good to know. 
Oops... 
Actually, it's still not working in Radiant, exact same issue... like I said, I was probably only half awake, lol. 
Useless Google 
I search "worldcraft" I get a dozen of useless pages about World of Warcraft. Sigh. 
The Utility GB Was Talking About 
 
So it still exists? Someone should archive that :-p 
 
not sure how to extract textures from those rmf files though. But you probably have access to the wad3 files. 
Actually That Link Is The Old One 
And the new one isn't in Russian :P
http://quakeone.com/forums/quake-help/servers-coding/3997-half-life-bsp-q1-8.html#post49563

I'll put it in the wiki :D 
Utility Is Only For HL Maps It Seems 
I'll get out mah ruler! 
That's Strange 
I have tons of maps and map scraps that were created in Worldcraft (1.6) and I've never had any problems opening them in Netradiant. 
Oh Wait 
I guess you mean that Valve version of Worldcraft? 
 
huh, IIRC I have used it to convert WC maps in the past.

Then maybe the problem is something entirely different? Now I'm confused. 
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