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If vore has 3 legs it may have 3 boobs. Fiends may have boobs on the back (with eyes).
I hope Skiffy takes the negativity with a pinch of salt. Because this forum has some of the worst trolls, even worse than youtube.
To be honest I kinda want Skiffy to give it a couple of big pendulous dairy cannons now just to mess with us.
in your juggling vormit.
I'm just going to finish the skin and animations and then see if you guys are still on the fence hehe.
Here's a more complete set of comparisons.
All these images are 8-bit color data rendered via software in a 8-bit color mode using the vanilla Quake palette. Without colored lighting, and without texture filtering. Lightmaps are rendered using a separate surface cache, which is combined with the texture in realtime. The lighting has four steps of dithering applied to it now. Each dithering step is done on a different step of the rendering, so they're actually multiple different approaches to fix different aspects of the vanilla software renderer's limitations. These comparisons are extreme cases, which are quite common for completely custom textures in maps designed without the original software renderer in mind. The better the texture & palette combination is, the smoother the resulting image will be, with the color differences being more subtle. I already have a method for generating an optimal palette from 24-bit images, so a game made from the ground up for this engine should look significantly smoother than this. I've still got to propagate these color corrected lighting modifications to the rest of the renderer (water, skies, and sprites first; MDL model rendering needs a complete update). Afterwards, I'll start preparing some completely custom content for a demo. No correction, no dithering. Exactly the same as vanilla Quake: http://www.quaketastic.com/files/screen_shots/retroquad_dwmtf_s0_correctionOff_ditheredlightOff.png No correction, but with 3-step lighting dithering: http://www.quaketastic.com/files/screen_shots/retroquad_dwmtf_s0_correctionOff_ditheredlightOn.png Color & brightness correction enabled, but dithering disabled: http://www.quaketastic.com/files/screen_shots/retroquad_dwmtf_s0_correctionOn_ditheredlightOff.png Both correction & dithering enabled: http://www.quaketastic.com/files/screen_shots/retroquad_dwmtf_s0_correctionOn_ditheredlightOn.png Other comparisons: http://www.quaketastic.com/files/screen_shots/retroquad_dwmtf_s1_correctionOff_ditheredlightOff.png http://www.quaketastic.com/files/screen_shots/retroquad_dwmtf_s1_correctionOn_ditheredlightOff.png http://www.quaketastic.com/files/screen_shots/retroquad_dwmtf_s1_correctionOn_ditheredlightOn.png http://www.quaketastic.com/files/screen_shots/retroquad_dwmtf_s2_correctionOff_ditheredlightOff.png http://www.quaketastic.com/files/screen_shots/retroquad_dwmtf_s2_correctionOff_ditheredlightOn.png http://www.quaketastic.com/files/screen_shots/retroquad_dwmtf_s2_correctionOn_ditheredlightOff.png http://www.quaketastic.com/files/screen_shots/retroquad_dwmtf_s2_correctionOn_ditheredlightOn.png I prefer this one....
http://www.quaketastic.com/files/screen_shots/retroquad_dwmtf_s0_correctionOff_ditheredlightOn.png the other corrected version looks less vibrant This dithering gives a sexy retro feel. It's kinda scary retro, actually. You can render unsettling horror scenes this way.
The corrected version looks less vibrant because that's how that texture is. See the hardware-accelerated screenshot from Quaddicted:
https://www.quaddicted.com/reviews/screenshots/dwmtf.jpg But I agree that there are cases in which color correction isn't desirable. retrojam4dlc_dw.bsp comes to mind, it looks better without it. And vanilla Quake in general feels a bit different to me with color-corrected lighting, so I'll make it optional. #13277: That's a good description. I'm definitely a colour correction OFF fella - with it on, it sort of has that sterile GL washed-out look.
Dithered light is kinda nice If you swapped the dithering algorithm slightly every frame, you'd like get a film grain effect for almost nothing. :P
Kinn: I've also noticed that.
JneeraZ: :P It's already very grainy when in movement. Not so much in maps with textures that matches the colormap better, of course. Fun fact: The more fidelity the drawing algorithm gets, the harder it is for the PNG compression to save space. The screenshot filesizes got progressively bigger. Yea I plan to do just that. And then it might be a while before I do another one. Because I have some serious anatomy course studies coming up in April which will consume my soul for a few months. So this and maybe another critter if I can then it will be quiet for a long time at least with new model updates.
Well, it happens. But let me thank you for having done a fantastic job on the shambler, which was sorely needed. Quake as a whole looks a lot better thanks to that.
I suppose your pending anatomy studies are the reason why you're focusing on non-humanoid characters at the moment. In that case, the fiend would be the logical next step, I guess. :) But anyway, thanks for what you have already done. http://www.scott-eaton.com/anatomy-for-artists-online-course
this one for anyone interesting in upping their game as an artist. :) Oh and here is my thread on polycount... I randomly post stuff there now and then. http://polycount.com/discussion/119346/skiffys-wip-thread-old-and-new-projects Surely you got some fine art in there, skiffy!
Some of the monsters do me think of characters from drwho, or that fish like archville dolphin. That anatomy site even spontaneous set me on drawing again. Nope I did not... its still being worked on though as I learn from you guys and the level work from Arcane Dimension. It will be a level for that mod now for sure.
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