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Quakespasm Engine
This engine needs its own thread.

Feedback: I like the OS X version, but I have to start it from the terminal for it to work and can't just double-click it like a traditional OS X app. I'm sure you guys already know this, either way great engine.

http://quakespasm.sourceforge.net/
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When Quake starts up --- and this is in your console output:

execing quake.rc // This is in a pak file
execing default.cfg // This is in a pak file
execing config.cfg // This is YOURS

couldn't exec autoexec.cfg // This is YOURS

This always prints to the console so you don't need to put an echo in there.

If you are putting your personal settings in autoexec.cfg, that is the only file you need. 
 
I've run into too many mods that contain an autoexec.cfg, so now I just always launch with a command line that will explicitly +exec a file that has the stuff I'd normally put in autoexec. 
Wrongly Cfgured 
If it's any comfort, the post on how not to do that is one of the most read on my site, so it may happen less in future... 
Yeah 
I read it, agreed with the logic and then went and broke all the rules in a fit of malaise.

I didn't force a resolution afaik though. 
Sorry 
I might have asked this before but cannot remember where. Do any of the modern engines support Nehahra or are they too man mod specific hacks in that for that to be possible? 
 
Thanks 
is that a fitz derivative out of interest? 
 
Joequake mostly from what I know. 
/gamma 
I think I found the reason why gamma is not working for me in recent builds.

I have 3 displays connected to 2 videocards (nvidia + intel).
When only one of the displays enabled (whether it connected to intel or nvidia) /gamma starts working.

But it doesn't work with 2 or more displays enabled (and even connected to the same card).

Can you guys nail this bug, please?
Asking because despite the fact that 0.85.9 spams to the console it actually changes gamma with all 3 displays enabled. 
Nehahra Compatibility 
darkplaces is fully compatible with nehahra. i tested it accidentally just a couple of days ago and everything worked fine. new monsters, weapons, powerups and cutscenes.. it's all there. 
AAS 
Could you give the quakespasm-sdl2.exe a try from here?
http://quakespasm.sourceforge.net/devel/rel/quakespasm-0.90.0_windows.zip 
 
Directq v 1.88 patch 1 also supports Nehehra 
Requiem 
The Requiem menu is hard to use with the backspace key, is there a new version with the traditional menu? 
 
just rebind keys as you like in the options. the next release will use esc for both Back and Close 
@ericw 
This build do it right - changes gamma only on the display with app (windowed or fullscreen) and restores original value on quit.

Also, there is one glitch - if you change gamma then move window to another display, change it again to another value and then close app, then display's gamma will not be restored to original values, i.e. a reboot required to restore the gamma.

Restarting QS 0.9 does not reset it, BUT 0.85.9 does.

So, you could use some bits from gamma init logic from 0.85 in 0.9, I guess :) 
Quakespasm Bugs Etc 
>bugs
*qs still lags in big, complex maps/mods. adding "-zone 65536" "-heapsize 92000" "-surfcachesize 320000" to the commandline doesn't fix the problem

*cannot return into the game after alt-tab out to desktop from the menu (no map loaded)

>Requests
*Use the DirectQ style of having only the muzzleflash have no interpolation; while all the objects of the gun/monster are interpolated

*Read files directly from the game folder, so user can drag & drop models/sounds etc

>help
also, how can i play a music track from the console? "play" looks for wav files in the sound folder (not music) and "cd" looks for a physical disk in the drive

lastly can i restore the old quake menu background? 
Continued 
>requests
remove the visible console bar going up when the map transitions to a cutscene

btw am using ver 0.85.1 
Ver 
my mistake ver 90.0 
 
*qs still lags in big, complex maps/mods. adding "-zone 65536" "-heapsize 92000" "-surfcachesize 320000" to the commandline doesn't fix the problem
what are your pc specs? you were saying before that armagon lags - how low of an fps do you get (scr_showfps 1)? what are the first 3 lines of output from running "gl_info" in the console? (on windows, you should be able to copy and paste it from stdout.txt) Make sure gfx grivers are installed... what FPS do you get on the same maps in DirectQ?

remove the visible console bar going up when the map transitions to a cutscene
as a workaround you can make the console speed fast, e.g. set scr_conspeed to 10000

lastly can i restore the old quake menu background?
launch with -fitz or delete quakespasm.pak

also, how can i play a music track from the console?
"music track04" should work

*cannot return into the game after alt-tab out to desktop from the menu (no map loaded)
weird, i'll see if I can reproduce that 
Another Example Of A Disappearing Object 
I found another case of a moving object disappearing when viewed from a certain place. I'm posting a description and a screenshot in case the devs have a use for another test case. If this is already well-covered ground, just ignore my msg.

This happens when walking through the silver key door in e1m2quoth. I'm using Quoth version 2_2. I have not yet upgraded my Quakespasm to the latest SVN version, so I don't know if the latest changes affect this. (This is the second time I spot one of these minor glitches, so it's not like they bother me.)

In the pictures, the missing object is in front of the button near the center of the viewport. It's a moving mechanism that activates the button, and you have to first trigger it with a floor button for it to move into this position.

http://imgur.com/5mmlu0M 
That's Fixed In The Upcoming Release 
thanks for the note though. 
Big Maps Performance 
The most useful thing with big maps was moving MDLs over to vertex buffers too. When you think about it, this makes sense: in any big scene there are going to be a lot of MDLs visible and the stock FitzQuake code is particularly bad for these (and made worse because it does a lot of multipassing).

Quoth maps that use the long torch model heavily make things even worse because there is a lot of insane and intricate detail on that model (which you don't even see 99% of the time) leading to a stupidly high polycount.

This normally needs shaders to be able to handle frame interpolation with vertex buffers, but for QuakeSpasm an intermediate step can be done by using client-side vertex arrays. That will also work on any OpenGL 1.1 or better hardware, which pretty much means everything.

The advantages are being able to take each MDL in a single draw call, and being able to calculate the frame once only then reuse that for each pass. Without VBOs you're still streaming a lot of vertex data to the GPU, but it still adds up to a significant CPU saving. 
Quakespasm 0.90.0 Released 
Version 0.90.0 of QuakeSpasm is finally released.

Changes since the previous version:
http://sf.net/p/quakespasm/news/2014/10/quakespasm-0900/

Downloads:
http://quakespasm.sourceforge.net/download.htm
http://sourceforge.net/projects/quakespasm/files/ 
Two Versions For OS X ? 
What's the diffirence between the "universal" and the SDL2 version for OS X ?

What is SDL2 anyway ? 
Continued 
hey ericw

specs
8gb ram
dx11

in quakespasm i get ~27fps
on the same map in directq,
I get a constant 60fps (vsync on),
constant 72fps vsync off


*Use the DirectQ style of having only the muzzleflash with no interpolation; while all the objects of the gun/monster are interpolated

>>to clarify, I mean in directq, all the gun models' animation are completely interpolated; only the muzzleflash object is not.
so it would make automatic weapons (supernailgun esp) look better when shooting.
Also it would make monsters' attack animations appear smooth instead of choppy


*Read files directly from the game folder, so user can drag & drop models/sounds etc
>>Will this be a feature in the next version?

>Requests
can ambient sounds be made to always loop even if do not contain a repeat node?

...is that you MH lol? please update directq 
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