#1280 posted by necros on 2014/10/04 18:19:12
is cutscene smoothness an issue over a network though?
#1281 posted by Baker on 2014/10/06 01:51:40
Cutscenes wouldn't be affected.
Zerstorer happens to be particularly uncoopable in a way that is more than having extra coop spawn points (I recall be pretty disappointed but can't recall the reason why it is uncoopable).
[Nehahra has at least one cutscene but is coopable (although if I recall a couple of rare maps failed to have multiple spawnpoints), but I don't recall anything about the cutscenes in coop (i.e. did they happen or not).
I know there are a couple of more single player releases with cut-scenes, but I can't their names and whether or not they are coop friendly.]
Config File Organization Tips Requested
#1282 posted by Pekka on 2014/10/10 11:21:56
How do people organize their config files for Quakespasm and multiple game directories? I mean the dirs that are selected with the -game option, of course.
I understand that I should put the bindings and options I want into autoexec.cfg files and it is probably helpful to delete the engine-created config.cfg files after modifying the autoexec files. However, what exactly happens if there are several config files that might apply for a given game setting? In what order are they processed?
What config files should I backup/copy, so I can reproduce my settings on another Quakespasm installation? I don't necessarily want to backup my whole .quakespasm subdir, because I don't want to keep all the saves, screenshots and whatnot.
Basically, I'm asking that if someone has worked out a good practice to follow, could they be kind & share the details. I'm asking here because QS is now my engine of choice for SP Quake.
Configs
#1283 posted by ericw on 2014/10/10 19:33:39
Preach has a great explanation of how the different config files relate:
http://tomeofpreach.wordpress.com/2013/09/05/quake-rc-and-being-a-good-citizen/
autoexec.cfg runs after config.cfg. You can put an autoexec.cfg in id1 and it'll get run on all mods (as long as the mod doesn't have its own autoexec.cfg), so putting all of your custom settings in id1/autoexec.cfg and backing that up is probably the way to go.
I'm pretty lazy and only change a couple settings from their defaults - always run, r_oldwater, statusbar size - so I don't bother with an autoexec.cfg.
Thanks Ericw
#1284 posted by Pekka on 2014/10/11 17:38:28
Thanks for the link. I also found this useful guide with a Google search.
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=120426294
Thought for the day: If I ever get confused which config files Quake is actually execing, I can put a lines like echo "this is from the foo directory" into them and see at the startup what is prints into the console. That'll help clear any confusion, though I think I got how it works already with the help of these links.
#1285 posted by Baker on 2014/10/11 18:11:27
When Quake starts up --- and this is in your console output:
execing quake.rc // This is in a pak file
execing default.cfg // This is in a pak file
execing config.cfg // This is YOURS
couldn't exec autoexec.cfg // This is YOURS
This always prints to the console so you don't need to put an echo in there.
If you are putting your personal settings in autoexec.cfg, that is the only file you need.
#1286 posted by Joel B on 2014/10/12 00:38:39
I've run into too many mods that contain an autoexec.cfg, so now I just always launch with a command line that will explicitly +exec a file that has the stuff I'd normally put in autoexec.
Wrongly Cfgured
#1287 posted by Preach on 2014/10/12 01:20:25
If it's any comfort, the post on how not to do that is one of the most read on my site, so it may happen less in future...
Yeah
#1288 posted by ijed on 2014/10/12 01:26:32
I read it, agreed with the logic and then went and broke all the rules in a fit of malaise.
I didn't force a resolution afaik though.
Sorry
#1289 posted by nitin on 2014/10/12 02:46:00
I might have asked this before but cannot remember where. Do any of the modern engines support Nehahra or are they too man mod specific hacks in that for that to be possible?
#1290 posted by Spirit on 2014/10/12 10:36:37
Thanks
#1291 posted by nitin on 2014/10/12 15:07:36
is that a fitz derivative out of interest?
#1292 posted by Spirit on 2014/10/12 15:43:39
Joequake mostly from what I know.
/gamma
#1293 posted by AAS on 2014/10/13 09:12:32
I think I found the reason why gamma is not working for me in recent builds.
I have 3 displays connected to 2 videocards (nvidia + intel).
When only one of the displays enabled (whether it connected to intel or nvidia) /gamma starts working.
But it doesn't work with 2 or more displays enabled (and even connected to the same card).
Can you guys nail this bug, please?
Asking because despite the fact that 0.85.9 spams to the console it actually changes gamma with all 3 displays enabled.
Nehahra Compatibility
#1294 posted by jakub on 2014/10/13 13:06:01
darkplaces is fully compatible with nehahra. i tested it accidentally just a couple of days ago and everything worked fine. new monsters, weapons, powerups and cutscenes.. it's all there.
AAS
#1295 posted by ericw on 2014/10/13 19:19:57
#1296 posted by Yhe1 on 2014/10/13 22:47:30
Directq v 1.88 patch 1 also supports Nehehra
Requiem
#1297 posted by Yhe1 on 2014/10/13 22:51:23
The Requiem menu is hard to use with the backspace key, is there a new version with the traditional menu?
#1298 posted by Spirit on 2014/10/13 23:37:42
just rebind keys as you like in the options. the next release will use esc for both Back and Close
@ericw
#1299 posted by AAS on 2014/10/14 05:58:33
This build do it right - changes gamma only on the display with app (windowed or fullscreen) and restores original value on quit.
Also, there is one glitch - if you change gamma then move window to another display, change it again to another value and then close app, then display's gamma will not be restored to original values, i.e. a reboot required to restore the gamma.
Restarting QS 0.9 does not reset it, BUT 0.85.9 does.
So, you could use some bits from gamma init logic from 0.85 in 0.9, I guess :)
Quakespasm Bugs Etc
#1300 posted by ranger on 2014/10/20 05:27:12
>bugs
*qs still lags in big, complex maps/mods. adding "-zone 65536" "-heapsize 92000" "-surfcachesize 320000" to the commandline doesn't fix the problem
*cannot return into the game after alt-tab out to desktop from the menu (no map loaded)
>Requests
*Use the DirectQ style of having only the muzzleflash have no interpolation; while all the objects of the gun/monster are interpolated
*Read files directly from the game folder, so user can drag & drop models/sounds etc
>help
also, how can i play a music track from the console? "play" looks for wav files in the sound folder (not music) and "cd" looks for a physical disk in the drive
lastly can i restore the old quake menu background?
Continued
#1301 posted by ranger on 2014/10/20 05:30:33
>requests
remove the visible console bar going up when the map transitions to a cutscene
btw am using ver 0.85.1
Ver
#1302 posted by ranger on 2014/10/20 05:33:19
my mistake ver 90.0
#1303 posted by ericw on 2014/10/20 06:01:04
*qs still lags in big, complex maps/mods. adding "-zone 65536" "-heapsize 92000" "-surfcachesize 320000" to the commandline doesn't fix the problem
what are your pc specs? you were saying before that armagon lags - how low of an fps do you get (scr_showfps 1)? what are the first 3 lines of output from running "gl_info" in the console? (on windows, you should be able to copy and paste it from stdout.txt) Make sure gfx grivers are installed... what FPS do you get on the same maps in DirectQ?
remove the visible console bar going up when the map transitions to a cutscene
as a workaround you can make the console speed fast, e.g. set scr_conspeed to 10000
lastly can i restore the old quake menu background?
launch with -fitz or delete quakespasm.pak
also, how can i play a music track from the console?
"music track04" should work
*cannot return into the game after alt-tab out to desktop from the menu (no map loaded)
weird, i'll see if I can reproduce that
Another Example Of A Disappearing Object
#1304 posted by Pekka on 2014/10/20 09:49:49
I found another case of a moving object disappearing when viewed from a certain place. I'm posting a description and a screenshot in case the devs have a use for another test case. If this is already well-covered ground, just ignore my msg.
This happens when walking through the silver key door in e1m2quoth. I'm using Quoth version 2_2. I have not yet upgraded my Quakespasm to the latest SVN version, so I don't know if the latest changes affect this. (This is the second time I spot one of these minor glitches, so it's not like they bother me.)
In the pictures, the missing object is in front of the button near the center of the viewport. It's a moving mechanism that activates the button, and you have to first trigger it with a floor button for it to move into this position.
http://imgur.com/5mmlu0M
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