#12558 posted by
adib on 2015/09/15 03:23:43
Thanks everyone.
About the pillars, I think Warren and Eric are saying the same thing. So I turned the big lamps func_wall and placed a point light entity inside each one, instead of using surface light. Lamp + pillar look better and the metal parts trace a soft shadow on the floor.
So far, this room is all I got. I'll get back to your comments when it's time to tweak.
I'm inspired by The Devil's Advocate and a 2009 movie called Walled In.
More Stuff That I Am Working On -
MFX / Sock
#12561 posted by
ijed on 2015/09/16 21:14:13
Flames will look bad as mesh IMO...
Why not a particle effect instead?
Otherwise, it's cool - I like flying melee enemies a lot :)
Mfx
#12562 posted by
adib on 2015/09/16 21:31:12
Loved the Lost Soul. I think it's finished the way it is plus flame particles (agree with ijed).
Fifth
#12563 posted by
adib on 2015/09/16 21:48:07
Looks like a metal map using some base textures. Metal is my favorite Q1 theme. The level looks all atmospheric already, and it's looking great. Wanna play it.
I know that while you're posting you should be mapping, but I'd love to hear more about people's creation process.
Fifth
#12564 posted by
ericw on 2015/09/16 22:01:24
Looking awesome.
I made a crappy speedbase version of muh_bad a while ago, uploading in case it's useful:
http://quaketastic.com/files/texture_wads/speedbzmuhbad.wad
Adib
my creation process usually involves a huge amount of procrastination. The problem is that my PC is my primary form of entertainment so it's easy to get distracted away to youtube or steam.
One of the biggest things I find about mapping is that you need to actually lay brushes down in order for something to get made. Mapping in front of an audience, like on twitch, kind of forces you into a frame of mind of "well I need to be doing *something*" so you just throw brushes down in the hope that something decent will come of it.
First thing I do is pick a theme and make some prefab areas, usually a test map, play with lighting a little bit and some specific shapes (long curved rooms, stair way ideas, door-ways and windows etc), think of it like creating a kind of "palette" in which you're going to paint your map. It also helps to keep the theme consistent.
For the main map I usually start out by making some shapes on a 64x64 grid just to get the ball rolling. Even if it's just the main atrium or a couple of rooms. I then see about how traversing the environment might be fun, so I make some raised platforms and stuff and think about how the encounters might play out. When it comes to detailing I have made my test map with prefabs already, so I see how they fit into the gameplay area I have made, sometimes it involves shuffling things about and making areas bigger or smaller.
The last part, but the most important, is to ensure you put at least 1 spawn in the map. Preferably in a small room that is hard to escape from if you find yourself in there.
Spawn
#12567 posted by
adib on 2015/09/17 04:13:57
You mean a tarbaby? I thought you all hated this monster.
Anyway, I used to blockout the level completely and then start to make prefabs. For jam 6 that cost me about the time I took polishing the map after deadline.
So, now I'm starting with an overall concept and making prefabs. I got stuck because I don't know where to go after that room I showed above. I decided to just think and prefab other spots to connect them later.
But you're right: maybe I should prefab and map separately. Let's see how it goes.
Fifth
#12568 posted by
nitin on 2015/09/17 12:44:20
that looks spectacular. The first shot reminds me of UnrealED type architecture.
Nitin
One of my earliest forays into level design was for unreal...
Lost Soul
#12570 posted by
madfox on 2015/09/19 04:16:16
@mfx- model looks great, I like the way it has it roundings and carves it mouth. Maybe make it more vampire with hooked teeth.
I made one for the quake/doom mod Hangar, but
mine is more smaller and I used a torch for flames.
Question Re: Modelling
#12571 posted by Tronyn on 2015/09/19 04:24:40
All kinds of new methods have been invented since I last played with qme (and did so amateurishly even then) but I'm wondering how easy it would be to convert models from other Quake-engine games (q2 engine, or even q3 engine), PURELY models for decorative items - no animations.
I find lack of decorative objects in Quake, very limiting. In Drake there's trees at least and the hexen 2 statue, so that helps.
Well
#12572 posted by
madfox on 2015/09/19 04:46:06
if you have a model that fits in qmle it is easy to export one frame out of it to a 3DS or DXF file.
Opening a new model from scratch and import the same frame back in Qmle you can save it as a mdl.
From there it can be used as a static entity that can be used in game as eyecandy.
As long the model excist on the extention 3ds or dxf and is under the 1000 verts / 2000 triangles it will
do.
Just give it a qc code like:
$frame 0
void() squad_stand1 =[ 0, squad_stand2 ] {};
void() squad_stand2 =[ 1, squad_stand1 ] {};
void() model_squad =
{
precache_model ("progs/squad.mdl");
self.solid = SOLID_BBOX;
self.movetype = MOVETYPE_NONE;
setmodel (self, "progs/squad.mdl");
setsize (self, VEC_HULL2_MIN, VEC_HULL2_MAX);
self.think = squad_stand1;
self.nextthink = time + 0.1;
};
Of course you need to compile it in a new progs. dat.
Tronyn
#12573 posted by
necros on 2015/09/19 04:57:02
preach has a md3 to mdl converter so depending on what you need, it could be trivial to convert them!
Thanks For Feedback All Ya!
#12574 posted by
mfx on 2015/09/19 06:02:47
The model is done by Sock in the end. We just collect thoughts together...
Thank You Madfox And Necros
#12575 posted by Tronyn on 2015/09/20 02:10:21
(it is awesome to hear from Madfox and Necros! If I won the lottery I would pay you guys to make a giant rotating mechanical quake episode).
I will write you guys later this month. I will see if I can rouse PM from his slumber.
Great Stuff Fifth.
#12577 posted by
Shambler on 2015/09/20 18:54:19
Liking the stuff ur posting, hope it comes to fruition.
Wow
Fuck that, and fuck anyone who targets 8chan in particular.
#12581 posted by anonymous user on 2015/09/22 10:44:04