Note: Textures and lightning not yet done. Only checking basic layout / item placement for now.

After wanting to jump into level editing for years a friend recently asked me to make a 3v3 -> 5v5 TDM map for an event and this is roughly what I came up with.
I just want to check feedback on anything that needs changing badly.

Linky: http://www.mediafire.com/download/uvxnf915bd4svg7/spz1dm2ftk_test.zip 

Whoops, should have mentioned it's for Quake / QW 

i think its worth posting despite the gun.
http://i.imgur.com/re4mmwk.jpg 

http://i.imgur.com/81RoXoQ.png 

Strogg invaded netherworld 

I was excited, but your forgot r_drawviewmodel 0

-1/10 

harvesting your brushwork 

Works pretty well for like 15 minutes of work. Leaves could be added with fences maybe. And different coloured version (more brown) would be very feasable for barrier structures.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/15588722/post/func_msg/bambootest.png 

Fucking hell mfx that's some fine brushwork in this shot: http://i.imgur.com/fQ3VK3f.jpg

Looks like if Studio Ghibli did Quake 

thx. Go map! 

Hi. First time user. I'd like some feedback on a level I'm currently working on. It's a remake of the first level of Monolith's original game, Blood. I've added a few if my own touches to the concept to make it look more like a modern work.

Please watch this YouTube video to see a complete run through of the map.

http://youtu.be/wqaZqz-MM6g

I'd love to hear any criticism and suggestions.

Thanks!

Ruin 

Very promising.

Outside bits look good. Rocks could do with some more rounding off.

Inside bits boxy and a bit cramped.

Textures are consistent but look a bit like arse.

I'd say, keep the design and layout, upscale the inside rooms a bit, add some more interesting quake-like designs and details to them, and go for a more subtle texture set. 

This is just a quick test I made, which I think works pretty well.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/15588722/post/func_msg/brickstile_test.png

Basically it still is only 8 different blocks from the source 128x128, but they are distributed around the 512x512 so there is a less obvious tiling grid.

Older for comparison:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/15588722/post/func_msg/brickstile.png

Also this version is already somewhat dirtied up with tints and the like, so ideally I would do the tiling pass on the cleaner version, and then dirty up from there, so the dirt is actually unique. I reckon for stuff like bricks and the like, things that tile across bigger areas, this is worth it, no? Do we even need small 128x128 versions? 

as a fan of blood I really like the look of your version of the map. :) 

texture is very well done... though I think if you want the texture to be used alongside or fit in with the current set of textures then it needs colours from different parts of the palette. When you look at even some of the most simple textures in quake it's very rare they stick to the same colour row. 

Atm this one uses colours from 4 rows I think, but they are all brownish, apart from the little grey bits I got in there. That kinda stuff will be what I will do later on when I got a really good base to work from and sorted out some other colour variants first. Little bits of green, blue, whatever works nicely.

Though I am not necessarily thinking about how these will work with the original textures, since I want to make a full set, trims, buttons and all of that. So mappers can just use my set if they want, but it should work OK with the original Quake stuff nonetheless.

Also when it comes to all the wads that are floating around out there, from the Dooms, Heretics, Hexens, stuff like Kingpin and what have you. All of those are kinda different styles and people still mix them together (more or less successfully)

So with that in mind I will just mainly focus on making a selfsustained set where people will not generally think "Oh, I need this one texture from the original Quake here." 

Everything on the right track, but get rid of that 'kin' horse that's following you! 

Just the Quake marine wearing his step dancing shoes. 

Though I am not necessarily thinking about how these will work with the original textures, since I want to make a full set, trims, buttons and all of that.

If that's the case just keep doing what you're doing. In comparison to Quakes textures though, Quakes are considerably more noisy and generally don't have as many colors per texture as yours do.

Maybe play around with adding a bit of noise for some texture that will register close up in game (try 1% uniform monochromatic before indexing). If you do that, you many not want to dither at all during indexing, or at least very little, depends on the look you're going for. Are you using Photoshop?

...and then dirty up from there, so the dirt is actually unique. I reckon for stuff like bricks and the like, things that tile across bigger areas, this is worth it, no? Do we even need small 128x128 versions?

Good. I opted to go for larger textures for textures that will often occupy large spaces. Go for unique as possible as much as you can in this case. Typically, I'll make the entire thing unique or make half the grid seams then copy-paste, flip and rotate bits and pieces till I fill up the whole texture. after that its just a mater of drawing in the bricks and tweaking.

I cheat a lot, however, on basic pattern based textures. For instance, I made a brick seam template, which I can manipulate with masking layers and layer styles. This lays over the base 'brick' image. Then of course, detail passes, which take the most amount of time.

Anyway, your texture looks very good. I posted my first textures here a little over a year ago and they looked like ass. Nice work! 

Some Quake textures are more noisy, some less. In general there will be a bit more colour variation in tiny amounts. As far as colours goes, this has 27. There are plenty in Quake which have way more.

I use Cosmigo Promotion, which is for indexed work. Like a more powerful version of DeluxePaint and the like. I do have Photoshop as well, but I probably wont be using it that much for these textures, apart from maybe some groundwork. I like to have 100% control as to which colours become which when I repalettise and I wanted to practise indexed texture work a bit more anyway, so this is a good excuse.

Also I have been doing pixelart for over 10 years professionally now. So that helps with this kinda work as well :) 

Also I have been doing pixelart for over 10 years professionally now. So that helps with this kinda work as well :)

I bet, no wonder your textures look good. I look forward to seeing more! 

It will probably be a while until I have some more time for this stuff. Pretty busy with working on a game we just released a while ago on Steam early access, as well as a freelance gig I need to finish. If I had the time and money to just do this right now I would, but alas. 

I saw one that looks similar to SLAIN that just hit early access. 

http://store.steampowered.com/app/246920/

If you like really chaotic multiplayer fun that is more aimed towards party than competition you will probably enjoy it. We also seriously need more players. Going a bit slow right now, though I am confident it will pick up over time and when it gets more exposure. 

Makes me want to plug in a N64 controller. Looks cool, I hope it goes well for you guys.