One More Question
#101 posted by yhe1 on 2009/03/04 08:25:27
What is the proper command line to run nehahra with Fitzquake 0.85?
Yhe1:
#102 posted by metlslime on 2009/03/04 08:48:28
no Nehahra support (...yet)
Haha, "for Some Reason"
I installed DP once, a while ago, and for some dark reasons it crashes after some minutes...
You're using DP.
For Some (very Good) Reasons
#104 posted by JPL on 2009/03/05 15:21:46
... I'm not using it anymore :P
This Engine
#105 posted by ijed on 2009/03/07 17:02:29
Is the business.
Another Question...
#106 posted by yhe1 on 2009/03/11 02:36:23
Can somebody explain what the -nomtex command line option does?
Yhe1:
#107 posted by metlslime on 2009/03/11 08:10:59
That disables multitexture rendering.
#108 posted by yhe1 on 2009/03/12 05:04:11
Can you explain a little bit more in depth? I was wondering how disabling the multitexture rendering helped the dynamic light speed up issue.
Yeah...
#109 posted by metlslime on 2009/03/12 08:38:31
In Fitzquake, (and glquake with gl_texsort 1) polygons are sorted by texture and then all the polygons for each texture are rendered, then all polygons for the next texture, and so on.
With multitexture enabled, the lightmaps are rendered at the same time, and when a lightmap needs to be updated for dynamic lighting, it triggers an upload.
Without multitexture, the lightmaps are rendered in a second stage after all textures. And, during this second stage, the polygons are sorted by which lightmap they use. And there might be a difference in how the uploads are done, since the lightmaps are encountered in a different order.
Since switching textures while rendering is somewhat expensive, but uploading textures is more expensive, but the total amount of lightmap uploads vs. the actual total number of lightmap pixels uploaded might have different costs, either one could be faster on different maps, different video cards, etc.
One of the things on my to-do list is a general optimization and rendering overhaul, so i might be able to get this stuff sped up even more.
Water Too Foggy.
#110 posted by Paradise on 2009/03/12 18:51:16
Very happy with this other than water is very foggy and hard to see in it. What inputs make it clear? Otherwise it is deff. keeper! :P
It Does Seem Foggier
#111 posted by Gunter on 2009/03/12 23:53:55
And I think the Ring of Shadows fog is too foggy as well.... and when you're wearing a ring AND are underwater, it's way-too-super-foggy!
I don't want the fog effects turned off completely though....
(metlslime, did you get that e-mail I sent?)
Gunter:
#112 posted by metlslime on 2009/03/13 02:49:29
sorry, haven't had a chance to respond to your email yet, but i did recieve it.
About the screen coloring for water and powerups, i haven't changed this from GLQuake as far as i can remember, so i'll have to check again and see what's up with that.
#113 posted by Spirit on 2009/04/05 21:23:30
There seems to be some issue with ATI.
Some german guy reported this:
http://r4d1um.seitzinger.eu/DSC00038.JPG
Ati Radeon X1250 with latest drivers
AMD Turion 64 X2 TL-60 2x2,0 GHz & 2 GB Ram
Windows XP SP2 (32 Bit)
If he starts the game it looks like that. If he alt-tabs out and right back in it fixes itself. But as soon as the next map is loaded it is garbled again and he has to alt-tab out and in once more.
He encounters the same in GL Quake, GL QuakeWorld and Hexen II.
I Have Similar On My X1300
#114 posted by RickyT33 on 2009/04/05 21:35:28
at work (shhh) ;)
Spirit:
#115 posted by metlslime on 2009/04/06 01:15:03
any idea, does he have this issue with all glquake engines or do some have fixed behavior?
#116 posted by Spirit on 2009/04/06 10:19:31
Dunno, I could ask him to try some. Which ones would be good? aguirRe's and Joequake maybe?
-bpp 32
#117 posted by HackNeyed on 2009/04/06 18:34:00
I have the same problems on ATI hardware. The fix? Add -bpp 32 to the command line or in the case of Fitzquake it can be set in the config.
Great
#118 posted by Spirit on 2009/04/06 22:07:04
That fixed it for that guy too. Thanks!
Maybe make 32 bit the default in the future?
#119 posted by yhe1 on 2009/04/07 01:25:04
Doesn't it run slower then?
#120 posted by JneeraZ on 2009/04/07 01:30:18
These days? I can't imagine.
Not Slower...
#121 posted by metlslime on 2009/04/07 01:35:37
but it uses more memory (since quake loads all textures are at the same color depth as the framebuffer.) So 32bpp uses twice the total video memory compared to 16bpp.
Oh And...
#122 posted by HackNeyed on 2009/04/07 07:12:30
I forgot to add as it might be a clue for someone as to what is happening. When I adjust my laptop's volume there is an on screen over lay to indicate the volume change and that will also fix the screen corruption... That is, until I enter the menu, then I can enter and leave without issue but moving the menu selection will often corrupt again and always when I change level/demo.
I think my nvidia machine had the problem as well but is has been out of order for a while and I really cant remember, it has a GTX 280 so when it was working I was playing CoD4 and L4D and Unreal3 a bit more then Quake.
Yep
#123 posted by than on 2009/04/09 11:49:46
I had the same problem that was solved as soon as the japanese text input overlay appeared. Going in and out of the console (same key as to activate the overlay) fixed it all. Hardly ideal though, but I think it all works now, though I've not tried in a little while
Transparent Water On Funcs
#124 posted by negke on 2009/05/05 20:51:56
If the water volume touches a wall which is part of the same entity, it will be transparant, too, so you can see through the wall (think skip window trick).
Yeah...
#125 posted by metlslime on 2009/05/06 00:59:19
that's because quake bmodels don't support liquid contents, even though they support liquid textures. The inside of a water-textured func_door brush is considered solid by the compiler, so when solid touches solid the interior faces are removed.
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