Once again without the text please. That is hilarious! 

 

I'm ashamed. 

Good for an intermission camera shot:) Ogres pissing off the castle battlements 

 

Also good for letting the ogre pee on the player if he gets killed. 

I don't think anyone mentioned this already, but you can disable the water and slime sound effects using compiler flags. The sounds are added at compile time and whether you can hear them or not is dependent on whether they are in a visible leaf or not. This makes them absolutely suck for open maps, where it is usually much better to just add your own sounds.

add these to your vis command line options:
-noambientsky
-noambientwater
-noambientslime
-noambientlava (doesn't have a sound anyway...)
-noambient (disable them all)

http://user.tninet.se/~xir870k/readmevis.txt 

I have this map that uses point-sized triggers for monster teleports and centerprints as usual. For some reason, however, they are all messed up in Quoth, spawning with an actual bbox instead of a point. This might be related to bbox-borrow hacks I used, but it shouldn't affect the point triggers (and doesn't in other mods). Any idea/care to take a look? 

Quoth has built in support for point sized triggers:
http://www.quaddicted.com/webarchive/kell.quaddicted.com/quoth/quoth_tutorial.html#triggers

Essentially you position the entity where you want the lower corner of your trigger, and set mangle to the desired dimension of trigger. If you don't specify dimensions, the trigger defaults to 64x64x64, which is what you're seeing, I guess.

The best workaround would be to set mangle to something very small, like '0.1 0.1 0.1'. This should stop the point triggers overspilling. 

In retrospect this default size is badly done. Any default size could potentially break a map, but making it very small would probably avoid problems in 90% of cases. One more for the 2.2 patch... 

Funny I never noticed it before - and I always use point triggers for monsters. Probably because Quoth usually breaks so many things in my maps that I don't even test it carefully anymore. I'll try the low mangles. Thanks.
Disclaimer: this wouldn't be necessary if it wasn't for some specialists who always seem to run maps in the wrong mods without even realizing... :/ 

Does Quoth treat monster pathing differently? Is the next path_corner called on touching the point instead of the box? Several monsters have problems on their patrols through cramped areas. 

Yes, there are some changes to accommodate the extra features quoth path_corners use. It looks from the tutorial like they've never been documented though...Corners support the following extra field for monsters:

wait: When non-zero, monsters will stand at this path_corner for wait seconds before continuing. If wait is negative, the monster will stand indefinitely. While standing, the monster will turn to face the angles set on the path corner.

The code that handles this is lengthy and I've been trying to pick my way through it without breaking it. I do know that one of the changes is that the monster is expected to reach the centre of the path_corner before it stops - there's a 4 unit margin of error, but it's much closer to the centre than the usual quake behaviour.

This can cause compatibility problems - in fact I already know that it breaks some pathing in e4m2. Unfortunately that leaves us in a bind, because reverting the changes now would break paths in maps designed for the new behaviour. So I think it may have to stay broken... 

Is there a way to have a solid brush entity with a trigger (relay) functionality? Apparently a regular func_wall's use field can't be overridden just like that. It seems like this should be possible with a notnull, but I'm somewhat confused as what the think field has to be. Sure, I could use a door with multi_trigger in its use field (to enable delay) or even a button, but this seems like even more of a hack than a clean notnull setup. The impact on network packets/performance is the same in either case? 

func_wall already has a use function - it toggles the texture, which is why you can't set a custom use function directly. However, you should be able to use

"think" "trigger_relay"
"nextthink" "0.1"

to change the use function post-spawn. 

Awesome, thanks. I wonder if this creates a new set of possibilities that we haven't thought of before...

I knew you normally can't set custom use functions directly. However, strangely enough, it works on doors. At least setting it to multi_trigger allows for "delay" where originally the target is fired instantaneously. 

I think delay works on doors even if you don't set multi_trigger - the quake code is very good about using SUB_UseTargets for everything that fires an event. 

For years I was under the impression it could only fire the targets immediately after activation unless set to multi_trigger. Feeling incredibly silly now.... 

Quoth question:
Could I make func_breakable objects bleed when shot? Also would be cool if it could trigger something on being blown up :E 

you could wrap the func_breakable in a normal shootable trigger that targets the breakable. 

That's what I'm doing atm but it's a bit awkward, especially if you want the player to stand on the breakable (don't ask me why k? :p ) cause they ice skate around :( 

But why not add the blood trail flag to the gibs it fires? It won't bleed when hit but will splat when destroyed. 

I know you can run a mod using another mod as a base using e.g. fitzquake.exe -quoth +game warpspasm, but is there a way to do that from the console? 

No. 

I'm working on a map, the problem is that I've exceeded marksurfaces limit, the map will run, but I want to make the map "standard" (it's an experiment, I want to use default Quake textures, respect standard limits, etc).

I've deleted some details, so I managed yo get from 32.893 to 32.237, but I need to go lower because I need to add some areas to connect some parts of the map with other parts.

So I started to delete small rooms and I had a huge unpleasant surprise. I deleted a small room behind a wall, it's a very simple room, but still... it has 4 walls, floor and ceiling, plus the entrance to the room is a digger made in the wall, that should take quite a few marksurfaces.

I was hoping in a nice drop, but marksurface went from 32.237 to 32.275. Jow is that possible? That room is completly isolated, the only area that connected the room to the map is a wall...

I work with Quark.

Any suggestions?