I started trying to use DP to get some cool texture effects going, but the shader tech in DP has some pretty severe limitations and being spoiled by Doom3, I kind of grew frustrated with it.

And then there are some fundamental changes to how some things work in the engine that break some QC stuff that relies on the original behaviour and tracking down the console variables you need to set to revert back to the old behaviour is annoying. 

"I go back to fitz and other engines are find them a bit vanilla"

That's what the rest of us LIKE about those engines. :P 

DP is great. It's just that to me and the way I generally use Quake it feels too "awkward" to use compared to ports like Fitz/QS - too complex in its usage and features/settings, too slow in terms of loading times.

In a larger, more active community, I guess it would've been more established as a modding platform, similar to ZDoom, but Quake doesn't have that anymore. For the remaining people the costs of making something DP-only may not justify or outweigh the "costs" in most cases. 

*benefits/"costs" 

Damn it, someone make me a moderator just so I can edit my stupid posts.. 

what willem said, it's hardly a gfx fancy game in terms of content. 

So yea.. it keeps going. And I have a few other sections I still need to brush out! Madness. I am enjoying this mapping thing though.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1849053/Quake_Mapping_06.jpg 

Some interesting designs in there. See if you can work on interconnectivity a bit too. 

old sky meh:

http://i.imgur.com/Aas7Mtn.jpg

new skybox hotness:

http://i.imgur.com/MSq6U56.jpg

Note the nice new knight.mdl. Aww.

I think the new sky/fog looks way better. 

But yes, map? 

the town of Laketown from The Hobbit. 

I like the tone of the rocks and the sky.... 

Yeah new sky/fog looks definitely better. 

 

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/161473/Misc/QuakeAO.jpg

AO or not, this screenshot fucking owns. 

but I know that's some nice design there :) 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ambient_occlusion 

look in the mapping help thread for more of the pretties.

In short - we have a new toy! 

qriple zomby

info_light makes the light origin so dimm,
hard to believe that spots emmiting so much light.
already over 720 ents while the limit is 620. 

Looks really good MF. Definitely need to get some small radius lights near those light textures. Other than that though I'm liking what I see. 

Those screenies look like '96 - '97 era screenshots.
Do you have an old PC? (just wondering) 

Looks really cool overall, Madfox! Agree w/ fifth on the light fixtures; it looks a bit weird to have a nice cone of light hitting the rocks, but the fixtures themselves are dark.

In those screenshots at least, the skybox brightness is also a bit overpowering, maybe they would fit in better if darkened a little in an image editor? 

@-5th All the info_light have an upper light, but that makes the entcount so hight.
I tend to a light0.3 with dist0.7 and range0.7 -light15 for a large area soft ligtning.

@-uaddy Quake screens always are point of taste.
Sometimes I can't see a thing.
This case was I support them on my own site and they were low jpgs.
I turned them into high, hope you see.

@-ericw you're right about the skybox, but it's the fog0.02 that's causing it. I changed the boxtga but it won't work, only clearing out fog, but then they're so awfull cliffdemon it cries out colour. Or no fog and soften the original. 

For fitzquake family engines, you can set "r_skyfog 0.1" to reduce the fogging of the skybox (default is 0.5) 

Make another light near the light texture itself with a small radius (like "wait 3" or something")... pretty much standard practice for the type of light you've made.