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The question you have to ask yourself is:
do you wanna keep it oldskool with the 1996-era white lighting flava, or do you want to be a funky fresh nuskool 1997-era colour cat? Not to worry I wont do ugly colors. I guess the "got compile tools working" part should have been stressed a little more. As for the lighting I do plan on using it ALOT but in a tasteful fashion. This is just a test map for random butchery. How intense can lights go and what do all the 5 zillion light settings do in the end with these new compilers. So you all get to enjoy my Frankenstein creations for now till I figure out all the buttons. As for the white lighting of the original quake? I think its time for subtle warm and colder colors for those interior and outside areas.
I do like Quake 2 but indeed they went a bit Primary back in the day. Back then it WAS Colored lights for the WIN!?! Before that nobody had done it much before accept in the realms of prerendered CG. nobody thought about tasteful interior lighting. But we'll see if you guys like my eventual creations. Wandering from Unreal and Cryengine into the older tech is fun. I love a good Min Max challenge. Cheers! Doing a map in the style of the new Mapjam4. Doubt I will finish it in time though. But hey nice learning process at least for me.
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1849053/Quake_Mapping_02.jpg Some early style experiments. I find red lighting difficult to get right.
It needs to be strong enough that it is clearly red and not pink, yet that is usually 'too strong' in that it just looks like batman forever. ... when well executed, it gives awesome rendering. Just try to make it smooth: no saturation, no strong colored lights, just smooth... and that will work fine...
For anyone looking to make a huge map that will fit within the standard
http://www.quaketastic.com/files/single_player/maps/hugemap.zip I find red lighting difficult to get right.
It needs to be strong enough that it is clearly red and not pink, yet that is usually 'too strong' in that it just looks like batman forever. I always had the impression Quake engines do something strange to the blending of red lighting, sometimes it appears equally dark as it's surroundings while it should be brighter... or something. Cantputmahfingeronit. With multiplicative lighting (and also real world lighting), component red light is going to eliminate any blue and green luminance information, and likewise with any other combo, so colors and brightnesses can appear to change weirdly. Rune metal for example has a lot of blue and green in it, so hitting that with pure red just gives you a strange dark mess.
Justoffthetopofmaheadtho. You wouldn't ever use pure component green lighting, or blue, red technically shouldn't be an exception. Is it just because it's a DARK VIOLENT COLOR that it feels less inappropriate than super crystal green? need a high saturation or they're just pink, as Mentioned above. The reason they look dark in Quake is because lots of the textures are green.
Green + red = black. The map looks good, keep the lights. I skipped Lunaran's post :p
To elaborate a bit, there is also a clamping issue; colour components can only be so bright (ie 255) which often combines badly with the quake palette / textures. Specifically red as well, since it practically requires 255 0 0. Once you know this, you can use it for specific effects. The screenshot still looks good, but the proof is in the playing. https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1849053/Quake_Mapping_03.jpg
Some more areas developing. The blood tunnels will get more open spaces soon... But I like the door style :) spikes! i feel like the middle screenshot has too many of the cross lights in one spot.
maybe if the bottom ones were the rectangle lights, or even better, if the lights that had two on the same pillar were merged into one long 192 unit tall light, it would make it look better. Dwere, Texture issue is with Trenchbroom bug currently... or my compiler need to check
Necros, Yea I need to consolidate some of them into the taller ones or change style indeed. I also want to make the area taller and a bit more spaced out since it goes past too quickly. The lower gravity requires that I make those upper platforms a little taller :P Still not bad for 2 hours of mad mapping at 2 in the morning for that entire space haha. I am enjoying this. A lot less work then UE4 :P Looki lookie, my new level. A shameless rip of Overwatch, still, someone needs to do the empire of the rising sun some justice in Q3.
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