Starbuck, post in the 'inspiration' thread 

Guess my goodbye was aimed more at tf, as func msgboard has helped me alot during the making of this map, and it wouldn't be the same without this thread.

It can be found at http://chop.ond.se/chop3tourney1/ once again. Added a new route and I ALPHABLENDED the terrain outside. (New small screenshots as requested) 

Hang in there, Func_'s a good place to be 99% of the time. Generally a cool bunch of people, and IMO, some of the best mappers around, for any Game. Looking forward to the final version of your map. Looks good 

This thread has slacked off a bit I've noticed? Once again an update, with some touch ups and fixes, and another new route.

http://chop.ond.se/chop3tourney1/ as usual. 

You do know about the missing sound file for the lift, and the missing textures? like those 2 pipes in the 3rd screenshot, and on the larger of the 2 pipes near the yellow armour, that run around in the wall cavity. 

Looking a lot better voodoo, the lighting has improved A LOT imo. The 1st and 5th pics blew my mind away, the details are also starting too look a lot better. keep up the good work 

hey cool! i thought you were leaving? i'm glad your not though. your map is starting to look pretty good. the lightning is much much better now and i like the funky light design on the wall. 

Thank you for your comments, sorry about the missing texture, will be corrected! 

Fixed the missing textures(I think!) and the link now points to the fixed texture version, dl if you feel like it. 

than it did at first. Shows that just working on it a bit more can change a map from being just 'ok' to actually being good, congrats.

Generally i still get a feeling the theme isn't fully coherent, not enough continuing underlying elements to hold it together as well as some maps. But... its not worth redoing stuff for, the next map will be better still anyway.

The one thing i would suggest is making sure you have some variation in height in areas which are open to the sky... it looks like its all the same height in some places... you could raise the wall over the doorway for example, or add a few towers behind the edge. Good work though, carry on! 

The lift sounds and the pipe textures are there now, just some missing textures, sought of outside the map, behind the lift area. 

Thanks starbuck, will try to add some variation in height!

I am not sure which area you are are describing, would be very happy if you felt you could take the time to take a screenshot of which areas are missing textures? 

If you stand facing the lift, with the yellow armour behind and to your left, you have 3 openings/windows, to the outside on your right, if you look out the opening/window, closest to the lift, you should see what I am talking about. I will send you a screenshot, but I can't do it now, but will in about an hour from the time of this post.

The only other problem for me is there seems to be a lot of dead ends, hindering the flow. One in particular can be problematic, at least with bots. If you are down in the section below the lift, where the mega health is, and a bot decides to hang about at the top of the lift (which they tend to), the lift will remain up, and you are stuck down below with no way out. 

Voodoo, I sent off the screenshot to the email address you used to register with. I dropped the quality of the jpeg down alot to make the file size smaller.

there seems to be a lot of dead ends Sorry about that, there are only 2, but being a small map it felt like a lot :). But after playing some more, it's not to bad. Except for the little prob with bots mentioned before 

Rather good screenshots... Cool lightning effects and archtecture..
Keep it up !! 

Thank you for the screenshots and everything, if you play the map in cpma you can pull a doublejump off of the little box-thing on the opposing side from the elevator. Don't know how to fix the bot being bad with the elevator, but will botclip some and make sure they act better with the YA and stuff as soon as I get it back from pjw.

Thank you for your compliments jp, is your name taken from SiN's main character? I think his name was JP Lambert? Or maybe it was JC Denton? :D Can't remember :/ 

No, this is my real name: Jean-Philippe LAMBERT... I don't use pseudo... and I didn't play SiN game.. sorry ;-)
Bye 

Ah, parleur francais? Je francais se mal :D

Guess the sin dudes name was JC Denton then :D 

Wow... Nice try, but I hope my english is better tahn your french.... sorry.... 

CPMA, yes, I stoped playing that a while back, just play vanillaQ3 now. Guess you can't please both crowds, but it's no problem if you have the RL. Hope you can pull those bots into line ;). 

sadly, my harddrive died about 3 days ago, being as dumb as I am I didn't have any off-hd backups, and the .map file is now lost in eternity :/

Development of the map will stop here, and I will probably start anew with another map soon.

Thank you for all your tips and feedback about the map, because it has not been in vain, you have taught me alot and improved me as a mapper, expect more stuff in the future. 

HD failures really suck :(

Good to hear your still gonna keep mapping though! 

But didn't pjw have a copy?
but will botclip some and make sure they act better with the YA and stuff as soon as I get it back from pjw.
Or am I misunderstanding?.

Thankfully I have never experienced a HD failure, I have had a couple start making a few odd noises that I thought were going down, so I replaced them. Now days, apart from regularly backing everything up on a DVD, every 6 months I just rip out the old HD and replace it with a new one. Kind of puts the odds in my favour a bit, cutting down the chance of loosing everything.
Anyway look forward to your next, best of luck 

He did have a copy, but I had built quite a bit since then, and I really don't feel like redoing about 5-6 hours of work all over again, maybe some other day. 

doing anything? feed me screens!