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Drew: Yes To Relays 
You'd need to give each button a unique target and give the notnull the corresponding targetname. You'd then need six relays each triggered by one button, so that all the relays target the counter. Each relay has a different targetname, but the same target. 
 
Are you using Quoth or not? :E 
2 Unit Brushes Versus Qbsp 
some of the face-coordinates are too close together, and may cause troubles for some build-tools

error Quark6.1 ~ QBSP
If I ignore it compiles fine.
I couldn't find it in ToolTips.

I have some small brushes on lights that are ore only 2 units. If I turn them into func_wall they may be no problem for vis but then I loos my light additions.

What can I change, surround it with a brush clip? 
Muad'Clip (Children Of Duh) 
Re: scrags vs teles
Apparently flymonsters need a little more room to move for said setup to work. The teleport triggers were 8 units wide and placed against the wall. Making the room some 32 units longer, so they are now more in the open, allows the scrags to touch them properly when flying in the direction of the player. Seems they clip differently to the world than walkmonsters or something. 
Thnx 
prbly wont do it anyway though 
Ugh 
this is supposed to be an SM but still having problems here. a trigger, which was targetting a door, is no longer targetting a door. It is set up to do so as any other trigger would be, but it isn't working. any suggestions regarding what could be the problem/questions that might help? 
 
door_dont_link on/off on the doors in question? that will be 90% of the problems with doors. :P

also note, linked doors with a target on each will trigger multiple times, just like unlinked doors.

linked doors with the same targetname will have problems too. i think they just don't open if there's an even number of doors. 
Yeah 
That's probably it.

A normal door without that flag looks for any other door touching its trigger area, and links it's movement to it.

If it's targeted by a trigger then that breaks. 
 
Not its trigger area, only the actual brushes. But yeah, when in doubt always set door_dont_link. 
Door Don't Link 
is set.

I have tried rebuilding the door. I have tried rebuilding the trigger.

I cannot figure out what it is that I changed to make the scenario which initially worked stop working.

there is a trigger once in front of the door in question, meant to trigger it. Aftewards, an ambush is meant to launch. After six buttons have been pressed, the aforementioned door is meant to lower. doors are not set to link, the door revealing the ambush monsters has a different targetname.

This is officially NOT a speedmap any longer. this sucks. 
 
Probably something that's too obvious to easily spot. Check angles, lip, wait, toogle, targetnames, other doors that might reach there in their extended position etc. 
Yeah 
I'm gonna take a break and see if it becomes apparent next time I look at it. if not, fuck it, I will streamline. 
There Are Two Great Scraps From Czg 
czg05 & czg17, maybe we should start some competition to finish these maps? anyone? or negke should look at them, or maybe czg himself could make it. (please czg) :)
i tried to combine two maps into one proper map, but i stucked for lack of inspiration for almost three years now. 
 
i'd sure like to see something made out of czg05 scraps. or even just with lunaran's doom textures. 
Yeah 
that shit would have been incredible. that scrap as it is is pretty incredible, actually. 
SKIP And DarkPlaces 
Skip as a visiblity blocket does not work on DarkPlaces as its traceline hits surfaces, not solids in the bsp like regular engines. It still clips, but monsters can see through it.
Skip should only work if it unlinks the texture from the leafs, which the current ones don't.
There may be a DP gameplayfix (default off), but it's uncertain.

So... once again DP fucks us over. >:(
No doubt it's all logical and technically correct, but as so often incompatible to 'standard' Quake engines. 
Well... 
Current skip tools are built on a hack, which only works if your engine follows closely to how stock engines handled BSPs. (for example, Fitzquake 0.75 doesn't support skips because I didn't know about them at the time. (Fixed in 0.80.))

So it's not really darkplaces' fault that the hack fails, unless LH considered it a priority to support levels that use it (which would be nice, but then again skip is more of a mapper thing, and Lordhavoc lives more in the modder world, and things that are important in one community are sometimes not even a blip on the radar in the other community.) 
 
Yes, that makes sense.

I always consider the old stock engines as benchmark for all things Q1SP and I can't recall a single map of mine where I wasn't screwed by DP in one way or another. But then the response is all "don't use hacks then, use qc" and I'm wtf, mind the roots, even though there's some truth in it. It wouldn't be much of problem if the engine was only popular among the modders, but unfortunately every other newbie uses it as well which can easily lead to confusion when encountering such an issue. Oh well.

Just posted it as FYI to keep in mind the people here if using skip in their maps. 
QRadiant 1.5 
I got the program running, but it can't find my mapfile.
So I took the map that comes with the program but I still receive the error.
What is wrong with the path file?

http://members.home.nl/gimli/donkey.jpg 
 
hqbsp?

use \ instead of / ? 
 
I just used the internal build path from Qradiant. The screen says [bsp] [*.map] 
 
It seems to expect the map in id1. That's crap I think. Try compiling by hand (not using the build menu, but run the compilers in a terminal). That's what I do.

Or change the settings for the build menu. 
Right 
Thanks, I'll try it out.

I placed the map in Id/maps.
When it didn't work I chose the one in C:\Program Files\GtkRadiant 1.5.0\q1.game\id1\qr001.map
It seems the program GtkRadiant/hbsp diesn't see the map 
Spiral Staircases 
Are there any tutorials on making spiral staircases, or maybe just some advice about making them? 
I Would Make A Basic 
Spiral staircase by making a 12-sided circular room, as per the czg tutorial, Then make the wedges for the stairs. There are only 2 actually different shaped brushes they you would have to make, you can then make the rest of the staircase by copy, pasting and rotating those two. My coag3 map has an example of this. 
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