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Sticky Thumb 
I'm trying to get my textures aligned, but the viewer from Quark has the nasty habbit to keep hanging.
Some metal4_4 recktangle walls are clear, but the corners give a blurry appearance.
Hard to trace the texture itself. 
Triggering A Func_plat 
Lets say i have a func_plat that i want to stay in it's unextended position until all the monsters in an area are gone. Would i use a trigger_count for this? Just have the monsters target the trigger_count or vice versa?

I should probably just look at the code. 
If You Want It To Be In The Up Position Then You Can Use 
a func_plat.

BUT

If you want it to start in the down position then you have to use a toggle door, with a trigger_multiple at the bottom and the top of the platform.

ANOTHER PROBLEM BECOMES APPARENT:

"You can't stand on the platform without it triggering, but dont want to have to put bars around the bottom of it to prevent the player from travelling up before the desired time/event"

SO

You could try making an invisible button which is positioned underneath the platform, and the button travels down when pressed. The top of the button is maybe 2 or 4 units higher than the top of the platform. On top of it is an invisible door. When you want to activate the lift, you send the invisible door permanently 'open', where it travels down to below the level of the button and platform. Have the button target the trigger_multiple at the top of the lift, rather then the platform directly. This way when you get to the top of the elevator you will not trigger the platform to move straight back down again. Give both the button and the trigger_multiple a generous "delay before reset" key. 
But 
I thoguht func_plats didn't do anything until triggered if they have a targetname.

And the LOW_TRIRGGER spawnflag starts them in their down position.

I think thats how it works, maybe I'm wrong. 
Low_trigger Eh? 
Sounds a hell of a lot simpler than the way I would have done it/tried to do it. 
Yeah, That Will Work. 
Ijed is right. Ricky is very creative tho, hahaha 
PLAT_LOW_TRIGGER 
What is actually does is placing the trigger volume of the plat at its base instead of making it span over the the whole height. Use this if you don't want the lift to come up when you stand on top of it or jump down the shaft.

I'm not sure if a negative height value would achieve what you want. A door with corresponding triggers (if necessary the activating trigger hack) is probably a safer bet. 
 
honestly, func_door should have been named func_mover it's THAT multi-purpose. 
Arches 
So, what's the easiest way to make an arch without wanting to kill myself? :p I've been trying to make an arch with karch2tr from knave.wad for about an hour and it's been this biggest pain in the ass I've ever experienced while mapping.. 
 
I can send you a map that someone made (gibbie?) with a bunch of different arches at 3-sides and 6-sides. Pretty quick and easy. 
Jt_ 
Some editors have built-in function that allow to create arches from a cube (e.g: QuArK). You just have to select the arch built-in function, and apply parameters such here: http://quark.sourceforge.net/infobase/maped.builders.archcap.html

Well, I don't know whether other editors have this kind of "prefab" features.... 
... And Also ... 
Zwiffle 
That would be great. My email is in my profile.

Jpl: yeah, wc has a arch maker, but its PITA too. :p 
 
I always make a cylinder, fit the top to the gap for the arch, snap the vertices to their nearest grid points and then fit cubes to the outline of the cylinder :E 
I'll Try That Later 
I thought about doing that, actually. Will try when i get home. 
 
Yeah if you're going to make an arch that's just dug into a wall, the way I do it is like ZQF said: make a cylinder and cut it in half at the middle or just fit the top part at the gap, snap vertices to grid, and then with the brush I want to turn into an arch I just cut it vertically at the vertices of the cylinder and then use vertex manipulation to adjust the individual brushes to the vertices of the cylinder.

If you want an arch that is extruded from a wall and not just dug into it, it's a bit trickier. I believe WC has an arch maker, but I've never used WC so I don't know how much it differs from the one in Hammer. But if I want an arch that's gonna cover an opening that's, say, 128 units wide and with the arch gap 64 units high, I make a brush with the arch maker that's 160x160 units and with whatever values for amount of vertices and brush width that applies to the situation (usually 16 vertices/16 width), and make it cover 360 degrees. Then I just delete the lower half and place it over the gap.

At least that's about how I do it when mapping for Half-Life, never used it for Quake so it might not work there, dunno. 
Arches Dude 
Here:

http://www.quakewiki.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/c_fig07.gif

And more importantly, here:

http://www.quakewiki.net/articles/curves-for-quake-tips-and-tricks/

That top picture is how I make most curves. Just make a bunch of random cuboids usually, and use vertex manipluation to position the corners.

Useful for lining up textures: - for the angled bits - rotations of +/- 26.5 degrees and +/-63.5 degrees, stretch the texture so that it's height is 1.06 
 
http://kneedeepinthedoomed.wordpress.com/tutorials/

scroll way down, there is a series of images that show the making of arches. Didn't get to writing the blurbs yet, but the pics should be self explaining.

Personally I think the czg curves aren't round enough. This is just my opinion of course. 
I Agree GB, Sort Of 
and he doesn't really explain in his tutorial how to extrapolate for curvier curves, which is too bad. 
Bernsten 
have you released any HL maps? 
 
Nope, I've mapped for years but it's mostly been disconnected experimentation with different build techniques and similar, haven't actually worked on a proper project with a release in mind.

I do, however, plan on starting on a rather large mod sometime in the future, one that I've had in the back in my head for a few years, just have to get all the different ideas concretized and in a fleshed out design document. I also want to have at least a couple released under my belt before this though, like the Q1 map I'm currently working on, to function as a "portfolio" and show that I'm somewhat capable to work on a larger project, and to help recruit other members, seeing as even the basics ideas behind the mod would need a substantial amount of coding, for instance.

Don't know how it'll work out seeing as I have little experience in working with teams, but hopefully having some proper releases under my belt will help gain interest in the project. Also I just realised I went way off topic here, but eh. 
Totally Off Topic 
but I'd definitely play it, I love HL. First things first though I guess - hope your map is coming along, and hope to be considered for testing if you need it - also, make sure you post shots at Qexpo! 
 
Yeah school's just out for summer, so I'll presume working on my map shortly and should have plenty of time. I'll let you know when it's near completion so you can test it, and I'll see what I can do regarding Qexpo. Cheers! 
I Think The Czg Curves Are More Proportional 
Some of your shots look more like a perfect circle, but this one aint so good:

http://kneedeepinthedoomed.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/cylinder7.jpg

The top, bottom, left and right sides are 4 units long, but all the other sides would be much closer to 3 units long if you measure them.

I would never ever do this on purpose either:

http://kneedeepinthedoomed.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/cylinder10.jpg?w=500&h=400

It seems silly to divide the large face. I would just make the incision where the angle is. It would be great if you needed the textures on either side of the join to be different.

This however is a lovely circle, I have never used a 16 sided circle, I stick to 12 or 24, 90% of the time i use 12 sides, but I could adopt this method quite happily:

http://kneedeepinthedoomed.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/ring3.jpg?w=500&h=400

Really nice bit of brushwork that, eh. :D 
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