Ah, lol, think I know what I did, seems okay :p 

I had this idea for slime trap involving a non-solid mover, and unsuccessfully spent the last two hours trying to make it work.

I used the modelindex trick from <a href=http://celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=4&start=5099&end=5099">here</a>. I must have done something wrong, because I couldn't get the thing to appear and/or move. A door would have been problematic for coop anyway, so I tried it with a train. Still no success.

What do I need to set the info_notnull's think field to? SUB_regen? 

http://celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=4&start=5099&end=5099 

regearg 

regearg 

gregrgerg 

I'm trying to get my textures aligned, but the viewer from Quark has the nasty habbit to keep hanging.
Some metal4_4 recktangle walls are clear, but the corners give a blurry appearance.
Hard to trace the texture itself. 

Lets say i have a func_plat that i want to stay in it's unextended position until all the monsters in an area are gone. Would i use a trigger_count for this? Just have the monsters target the trigger_count or vice versa?

I should probably just look at the code. 

a func_plat.

BUT

If you want it to start in the down position then you have to use a toggle door, with a trigger_multiple at the bottom and the top of the platform.

ANOTHER PROBLEM BECOMES APPARENT:

"You can't stand on the platform without it triggering, but dont want to have to put bars around the bottom of it to prevent the player from travelling up before the desired time/event"

SO

You could try making an invisible button which is positioned underneath the platform, and the button travels down when pressed. The top of the button is maybe 2 or 4 units higher than the top of the platform. On top of it is an invisible door. When you want to activate the lift, you send the invisible door permanently 'open', where it travels down to below the level of the button and platform. Have the button target the trigger_multiple at the top of the lift, rather then the platform directly. This way when you get to the top of the elevator you will not trigger the platform to move straight back down again. Give both the button and the trigger_multiple a generous "delay before reset" key. 

I thoguht func_plats didn't do anything until triggered if they have a targetname.

And the LOW_TRIRGGER spawnflag starts them in their down position.

I think thats how it works, maybe I'm wrong. 

Sounds a hell of a lot simpler than the way I would have done it/tried to do it. 

Ijed is right. Ricky is very creative tho, hahaha 

What is actually does is placing the trigger volume of the plat at its base instead of making it span over the the whole height. Use this if you don't want the lift to come up when you stand on top of it or jump down the shaft.

I'm not sure if a negative height value would achieve what you want. A door with corresponding triggers (if necessary the activating trigger hack) is probably a safer bet. 

honestly, func_door should have been named func_mover it's THAT multi-purpose. 

So, what's the easiest way to make an arch without wanting to kill myself? :p I've been trying to make an arch with karch2tr from knave.wad for about an hour and it's been this biggest pain in the ass I've ever experienced while mapping.. 

I can send you a map that someone made (gibbie?) with a bunch of different arches at 3-sides and 6-sides. Pretty quick and easy. 

Some editors have built-in function that allow to create arches from a cube (e.g: QuArK). You just have to select the arch built-in function, and apply parameters such here: http://quark.sourceforge.net/infobase/maped.builders.archcap.html

Well, I don't know whether other editors have this kind of "prefab" features.... 

.. further details here:

http://quark.sourceforge.net/infobase/maped.builders.brusharchcap.html

enjoy :) 

That would be great. My email is in my profile.

Jpl: yeah, wc has a arch maker, but its PITA too. :p 

I always make a cylinder, fit the top to the gap for the arch, snap the vertices to their nearest grid points and then fit cubes to the outline of the cylinder :E 

I thought about doing that, actually. Will try when i get home. 

Yeah if you're going to make an arch that's just dug into a wall, the way I do it is like ZQF said: make a cylinder and cut it in half at the middle or just fit the top part at the gap, snap vertices to grid, and then with the brush I want to turn into an arch I just cut it vertically at the vertices of the cylinder and then use vertex manipulation to adjust the individual brushes to the vertices of the cylinder.

If you want an arch that is extruded from a wall and not just dug into it, it's a bit trickier. I believe WC has an arch maker, but I've never used WC so I don't know how much it differs from the one in Hammer. But if I want an arch that's gonna cover an opening that's, say, 128 units wide and with the arch gap 64 units high, I make a brush with the arch maker that's 160x160 units and with whatever values for amount of vertices and brush width that applies to the situation (usually 16 vertices/16 width), and make it cover 360 degrees. Then I just delete the lower half and place it over the gap.

At least that's about how I do it when mapping for Half-Life, never used it for Quake so it might not work there, dunno. 

Here:

http://www.quakewiki.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/c_fig07.gif

And more importantly, here:

http://www.quakewiki.net/articles/curves-for-quake-tips-and-tricks/

That top picture is how I make most curves. Just make a bunch of random cuboids usually, and use vertex manipluation to position the corners.

Useful for lining up textures: - for the angled bits - rotations of +/- 26.5 degrees and +/-63.5 degrees, stretch the texture so that it's height is 1.06 

http://kneedeepinthedoomed.wordpress.com/tutorials/

scroll way down, there is a series of images that show the making of arches. Didn't get to writing the blurbs yet, but the pics should be self explaining.

Personally I think the czg curves aren't round enough. This is just my opinion of course. 

and he doesn't really explain in his tutorial how to extrapolate for curvier curves, which is too bad.