/me feels debased by my own smugness - I might have well as said please flame me ;) 

post your problem in the "mapping help" thread as well, to make sure everyone sees it. 

The engine error message "Bad surface extents" is commonly caused by having a non-solid (i.e. liquid/sky) texture in the map that is also missing from the wad (i.e. you get the compiler warning "Missing texture ...").

This is probably due to the fact that such a missing texture (that might be on a very large undivided brush face) will create problems for the engine when it silently replaces the missing texture with some other pattern (e.g. the character map) and this pattern is considered a solid texture.

The solid textured faces may not have any size (something about surface caches in the engine). This issue might be related to the one mentioned above.

Also in TreeQBSP/DuBSP, you can enable the option "-splitspecial" that will treat liquid/sky as normal solid brushes, i.e. subdivide them into smaller pieces. 

make sure your liquids and skies are in the wad. 

I think I forgot to mention this one, but DeathMongor had a id metal/rune themed SP map. cheggit here:

http://ftp.task.gda.pl/pub/games/planetquake/deathmonger/dm1m2.zip
http://ftp.sunet.se/planetquake/deathmonger/dm1m2.zip 

thx, already played it :)
nice use of the textures/insanely high density of monsters 

I changed from subdiv 270 to 256 and now it suddenly works. Tyrann, did you ever know that you're my hero? I'll put up some screenshots of what I have so far in an hour or so.

That dm1m2 map is pretty ok. There are some tough battles in there. I had to finish with an axe. 

The map is not exceptional, and is pretty hit and miss. However, Kell had asked me for a list of good id metal/run themed maps, so I rattled off some random maps. I wasn't sure if I included that one, but it turns out that I did. 

R.P.G. is teh man with teh metal 

I think 256 is the absolute maximum, so it's probably safer to set it just below that. TreeQBSP defaults to 240. 

Probably the missing sky/water/whatever texture is your problem, but if not, try setting subdivide a bit lower also. 

that it had to be LESS than 256. So 255.9999... would be the max, but 240 is the default becuase it's 16 aligned. I can't remember the source of this impression, though. 

I had thought that subdiv 240 is rather dumb and results in uneffective splits and increased r_speeds, but compiling with subdivide 256 eventually started to crash quake with that
"badfaced error" (it was only in GL quake afair) 

Not sure how well this code will post, but from model.c:

if (!(tex->flags & TEX_SPECIAL) && s->extents[i] > 256)
Sys_Error("Bad surface extents");

So, you can make them equal to 256, but due to precision limitations it's easy to spill just over that limit if you're aiming too close. 

I based my bat file off of someone else's, which was where my -subdiv 270 came from. Probably someone from here. At the time I didn't know what most of the compile options did and I'm still not entirely sure about some of them. I wonder if 270 was working for him? 

http://www.digitallyimported.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=29803 

It's great cause you can fool all sorts of people, but it's really just a different take on the same old thing. 

Nice. It goes pretty deep, but I finally found it cycling back on itself. 

And it's a lot more amusing to show it to someone else.

"That's about the fifth time I--Oh. I see."

haha 

well if 240 sucks and 256 crashes, what am I supposed to use? :D

I`ll try taking it lower than 256, but if the r_speeds blow out I might just change it back, since I was only getting the BAD SURFACE EXTENTS error in WinQuake, I might just ignore it... nobody uses WinQuake, right? (surely not!) It`s a deathmatch map though, so I`ll have to check if it crashes software qwcl.exe

p.s thanks for the tips but all my textures appear to be present in the wads, so that isn`t the problem (nor is it a brush with 2 or more animated textures on it).

Thanks for the help guys. 

so you might as well just use it.

as for winquake/qwcl compatability, i believe the renderer for all the software engines is basically the same. 

test 

The qw ffa day will be on Sunday 3pm EST. We will play cheshires maps starting with chesdm1 and ending with chesdm4. 

i recently got this email from:
rozbehiusa@yahoo.com
[i thought some of you might be interested, plus the sites themselves are pretty cool - UWF].

Im admin on www.nqeu.tk and wanna see if you wanna help us out there with writing news about new maps or anything related to Quake1.
The site was originaly only in swedish 5-6 years ago but now the past 2 years its english and dedicated for the Quakers around the world!
We are around 10 ppl in the staff and growing by week.

We are on daily bases on our IRC channel ( #RQ ) on irc.quakenet.org were we often meet and talk about news etc.
Recently we released a movie with www.nqmovie.tk and it have been a smashhit all around the world, from brazil -> sweden -> australia.

Im also head admin on www.quakeworld.nu, the portal for all quakeworld players and working in lots of other projects!
Hopefully you can help us out in one way or another.

/Sassa 

if I'd bloody looked in that fucking drawer seven hours ago, I'd have found that Win95 install CD and saved myself hours of grief.

(Got the parts, formatted the HD, went mad trying to copy across an existing install.)