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Tronyn 
It's all good. I forget about it myself until someone asks me about it and I have to re-re-re-re-explain that it's just a start map for someone else's map pack. :) And I feel you about the whole working-oneself-into-the-ground situation; I'm there right now. Things might change nicely sometime in the next 2-3 weeks though, so if you seriously want some help sorting out the map, let me know and I might be able to offer some help in December. 
 
tronyn your new email is fuckedup... dont work :\ 
 
tronyn u should open a gmail account seperate the spawn from mails :\ and is free if u need a invitacion just shoot! 
Trinca 
There should be a dot between mail and usask in the address. 
 
thks aguirRe! ;) it was sent now! 
Shrimp On A Treadmill 
You thought you'd seen it all, until:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=kKRkP43R8pY 
Heh 
Was thinking El Scampino needed to lose a bit of the gut... 
++ For Animal Cruelty Comments 
would watch again 
What? 
and he doesn't get sucked into a 3mm hole in an oil pipeline? 
Gl Quake Will Not Load 
I get a genport I/O initialization failure then,

grSstSelect: Non existant SST, then I have a huge screen!

ending with wglcreatcontent failed.

PS
I already have the required glide Dll (I was told on the link to download it too, cuz I'll need it, then told unless I have a voodo card, which I dont, I wont need it. So I erased it from my quake directory and got the same messages)

Please help!!! 
Saturnine: 
like i was saying, unless you have a voodoo card, i don't think you need any dll in your quake dir. That could be the problem. 
Take 2 Gl Loading Problems 
I was told to erase opengl32.dll as well. So I did, Now it finally loads past all of these errors, but its slow and stutters. 
Saturnine 
have you tried using FitzQuake? It's a vast improvement over GLQuake. 
I'm Posting From Work. 
:-o 
Saturnine 
yeah, just use fitzquake, it's cool for cats 
I Want To Use Dark Places 
I thought you had to have Gl quake first though! 
Tried Fitzquake 
It couldnt load gfx.wad. Whatever that means 
You Don't Need Glquake Then 
Fitzquake and Darkplaces should both work on a clean install of quake.

For Fitzquake, all you really need is three files:
/quake/fitzquake.exe
/quake/id1/pak0.pak
/quake/id1/pak1.pak

I'm sure darkplaces is similar, except darkplaces might come with its own dlls.

As for the gfx.wad, this can happen if you launch with a .bat file from a directory other than the quake dir:

Incorrect:
c:\quake\fitzquake

Correct:
cd c:\quake
fitzquake


If it's a shortcut, make sure the "starting directory" is your quake directory. 
OMG 
11111!!!!! 
Metlslime 
I think what you meant to say was:

OMG
!!!!!11111
 
Shambler 
did you buy Company of Heroes yet? I fancy a game against you, I gotta get you back for all that ownage you gave me in dawn of war! =) 
Daz 
I'm free for an ass-kicking in CoH. Come back to #tf, please. We miss you. 
Latest Experiment In Running A Better Engine 
Installed only the pak files to C:\Darkplaces, C:\Quake Darkplaces, C:\QUAKE and still got the same effect. the game stutters so bad I cant even play it. I Cant adjust the options ingame (If this is the problem)Cuz It takes three minutes to shut the damn thing down and try again, Toggling options is impossible.

*that is how bad it stutters. 
If They're Not In A Folder Called Id1, It Won't Work 
c:\WHAT\EVER\PATH\engine.exe
c:\WHAT\EVER\PATH\id1\pak0.pak
c:\WHAT\EVER\PATH\id1\pak1.pak 
They Are In Id1 
on all attempts they were in id1 
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