Is what it will turn out like. When they realise they actually do know how to make UT better than all the gibbering internet fucktards do (as proved by the previous 4 incarnations of the game).

Pretty much? I had thought this was true from the outset and that this was mainly a way for epic to generate buzz. designing a game by committee is a disaster waiting to happen as everyone tries to pull in different directions and I have to assume they are aware of this. 

now you have to! sorry, but its awesome! 

very nice. is that your own skybox? Can't remember seeing that before. 

Can you make the antennas pointy and much taller, and stick impaled guys on them because that's what I do in every map I make...

Uh, I mean, good work, keep going :) 

Shame sock didn't put a clothline with a dirty sock as a credit easter egg in Zendar like I suggested. Perhaps this map is another opportunity. 

"Pretty much? I had thought this was true from the outset and that this was mainly a way for epic to generate buzz. designing a game by committee is a disaster waiting to happen as everyone tries to pull in different directions and I have to assume they are aware of this."

Obviously every community suggestion won't be taken at face value and blindly to the game. There's a difference between developing a game "for the community" and "with the community". The latter, which is what we're doing, comes with implied curation and filtering and iteration. 

"and blindly ADDED to the game", I meant to say. 

will take lots of patience :) 

Or lots of interns. 

is the worst idea. However!

I think a lot of people feel very passionate about their games and what makes a good one (I got a lot of feedback, I will take it).

I think a lot of people really understand what made UT great in the first place. Things that I hated about the newer UT games were the bland colours and the stupid American Footballer style proportions on *everything*. 

People who will actually make some UE4 prototypes, instead of simply spamming the forums with walls of text, will be listened to by Epic first and foremost. I wonder if that was an intentional way on Epic's end of encouraging people to subscribe. 

This topic is about screenshots. C'mon guys and worms, show us more pictures of Quake maps in the works. I want an erection ! 

Yes, prototypes are the way to go if you really want to make an impression. Words are great, but if I can fire up your blueprint sample and PLAY what you're talking about ... that's gold.

"Or lots of interns."

As a first pass filter, maybe. Ultimately, it will have to be looked at by someone at Epic - likely me - before it goes into the game for reals. 

AAA games are already designed by committee, may as well have the gamers on that committee too. Even if all their suggestions are fucking stupid, they are likely to lead to better gameplay than what your art lead is suggesting. 

The point was to prove that a 90s style look is possible with FBSP, q3map2 and FTE, using non-paletted (ie RGB) TGA textures.

The idea was to demonstrate that technology is not per se a hindrance in achieving that look. 

Or marketing, production, creative dictator(s), other designers, parent company wanting to 'help' and of course, the client.

bloated, distributed teams are becoming a thing of the past. The industry has changed so that more agile and focused teams are more effective.

Hopefully this will mean the end or at least attenuation of committee design.

Still a long way to go though. My title is games designer, which really means facilitator. 

Random brain rambles, but I wonder how many of those stories of "the publisher ruined our game!" are actually true.

I know it happens sometimes but I think at least some of those must have been smoke screens. Sometimes a game is just shitty. :) 

Not trying to excuse the oinkers I've worked on.

Biggest culprit for a bad game is a bad team and/or teamwork.

This can be caused by morale though, and there's nothing for lowering morale like a command from on high that's counterproductive and must be done anyway. 

"there's nothing for lowering morale like a command from on high that's counterproductive and must be done anyway."

Sooner or later, no matter what field you're in, you realize that The Wire describes your workplace. 

From my experience, it was a little of column A and a little of column B. A mixture of directionless idiot leads, with a Publisher (who happens to own the studio) who just wants to flip Call of Duty shaped hotcakes off the griddle. So you go from atmospheric horror/puzzle game with time travel mechanics, to mediocre and forgettable shooter with time travel story. 

What game are you talking about scampie? Singularity had time travel...

A lot of games suck because there's a mass of dumb cunt gamers though don't know what good games are. The younger console market who just want to do STUPID FUCKING MINDLESS SHIT like minigames and running over pedestrians and collecting pointless crap like new outfits for your character. I've been playing far too many of these open world sandbox games lately that seem to be more about just fucking around doing random shit with your mates over while eating pizza, instead a really amazing gaming experience. Unfortunately, that seems to be what brings the money.

Dead Rising 2 is the current one I'm playing through and I'll take any COD game over DR2. 

@nitin, yeah this weekend hopefully.

@necros, yes this is my skybox. I bought the latest version of Terragen and have been testing out some ideas, this is one of them.

@ijed, the architecture is a cross between runic and base. The towers of runes are suppose to be topped with metal antenna poles. No spikes or bodies for this map.

@negke, never been a fan of easter eggs in my own maps, just simple secrets is enough.

@rest_of_the_idiots, seriously start another thread "UT dribble" or talk in general. This thread is suppose to be screenshots and feedback. >:( 

http://i.imgur.com/auRF23R.png 

http://www.polygon.com/2014/3/3/5462994/singularity-two-years-to-make-a-mess-ten-months-to-clean-it-up 

I was working on it for awhile at the end of that 'two year mess'