The reason FE is being publically criticized and subsequently shunned is not because of the mod, but the fact that at least one of the maps exceeds old Quake's visibility limits (*).

Thus the blame isn't on American McGee for employing hacky code, but SleepwalkR for releasing an editor that encourages detailing! 

(*) Which, like I said, doesn't seem like that much of a problem compared to the hard limits. 

Hold on, there was shunning? Did I miss the shunning? Aw man. It's been a long time since I could get a good shun on. 

 

Maybe I should just released it without telling anyone that it didn't work on standard quake to see if anyone noticed... ;) 

You could take the offending maps out of the pak and release them separately.

Or leave it all as is and call it something slightly different. id tribute pack, or, something.


Or: just do whatever you want! it's other people who are apparently having the heart attacks. 

I am looking forward to your release more than the next sock! But the QTWID label might invoke different expectations than what you made. Either live with some bullying from pseudonymous internet twats or name it QTWITIMHDID. 

quake the way i think id might have done it ... dude? 

But aren't we all internet twats? Am I right guys?

...guys? 

 

will have to put up with for the community based new UT development. 

Ha ho no kidding. 

 

I probably shouldn't have brought it up...

Fifth, I think that I made it clear that you can, and I encourage you, to make it the way that you want it to be. There can always be a QTWIDI-2 or whatever. My comments were purely based upon what I recalled about what you said that you intended to do way back when you first mentioned it several months ago (December-ish I think). Whatever you release I will play through and based upon QDeck I think that it will probably be pretty good. I personally would stay away from Quoth though. That kind of goes outside of the whole "The way ID did it" part. If you do go with Quoth I would suggest changing the name. 

 

Ignore all this.

Just make something you think is cool. 

Is what it will turn out like. When they realise they actually do know how to make UT better than all the gibbering internet fucktards do (as proved by the previous 4 incarnations of the game). 

'id quality is bullshit!' 

 

Metal Dish 

dat skybox tho.... unffff 

 

Is what it will turn out like. When they realise they actually do know how to make UT better than all the gibbering internet fucktards do (as proved by the previous 4 incarnations of the game).

Pretty much? I had thought this was true from the outset and that this was mainly a way for epic to generate buzz. designing a game by committee is a disaster waiting to happen as everyone tries to pull in different directions and I have to assume they are aware of this. 

now you have to! sorry, but its awesome! 

very nice. is that your own skybox? Can't remember seeing that before.