Adjusted some light compile settings

http://www.quaketastic.com/files/screen_shots/titan2s2.jpg

http://www.quaketastic.com/files/screen_shots/titan2s3.jpg 

Looks rad. Not too sold on the terracotta pillars though. 

I'll give quaketastic a break

http://www.mediafire.com/view/028wke2ooorn7ay/titan1s4.jpg
http://www.mediafire.com/view/iefc127htz5j57j/titan1s6.jpg
http://www.mediafire.com/view/z5bzvv11fg7ljma/titan1s5.jpg
http://www.mediafire.com/view/0knsi0aa3dsdabd/titan1s1.jpg
http://www.mediafire.com/view/5zdi9f0u6wfdgyq/titan1s9.jpg
http://www.mediafire.com/view/27r6fy8cwl7c62r/titan1s3.jpg
http://www.mediafire.com/view/dr0i48rcnubq85b/titan1s7.jpg
http://www.mediafire.com/view/kjumljsb59lkikh/titan1s2.jpg
http://www.mediafire.com/view/mm1ktk30fshrjel/titan1s10.jpg
http://www.mediafire.com/view/8yn6b8nspmghlqr/titan1s8.jpg 

looks very promising. 

Love that fiend head above the fireplace. Looking good. 

mechtech: looks interesting but i'd relax the colours a bit, just make everything closer to white while keeping a little bit of the colour. 

A (hopefully final) beta of Titan1.
http://www.mediafire.com/download/2vdtbb0ci47af46/titanbeta7.7z

Requires Quoth, recommend Fitz.
Skill levels easy=more Quake hard=more Quoth
Try easy first, hard is hard.
Please email with anything. Email in profile 

I always saw it as not so much him being a prissy bitch liking one mapper over another rather than harboring bandwidth in general back when that actually cost a bit of money. I downloaded a lot of maps from his site (on dial up over 8 real world hours away) and I honestly have nothing but appreciation for him doing that on his own dime. If you wanted to see every 3rd rate map out there back in the day then that's what fileplanet was there for.

That being said fuck you Shambler for never even looking at my first offering. It made me stop mapping and start looking at maps too critically...

(actually none of that is true and it's just the pain meds saying that. I've never really put anything out there and I'm my own worse critic that even that priss Shambler couldn't put to shame.)

But I do like knowing how the game works which is what ultimately keeps bringing me back here reading what you insane fuckers have to say... So there is that I guess...

Fuck me my back hurts. Feet shouldn't be numb unless there's snow involved. 

mapping makes the fun go round,
money makes the frags go down. 

I wondered why I never saw the weather lightning in Quake. So I took a pix into fimg and ended up here.

As a static model keeps on going I stated the last frame on
self.nextthink = time + 10.0
which is a blanc frame so it isn't vissible.

So now I have a weather lightning within 10 sec.
breaking my head how to add sound and light simultaneously.

File is on quaketastic/models/bliksem.zip 

The great thing about it is that, just like in the real world, the light and the thunder do not ever have to match up and in fact should rarely ever match up (honestly, if they ever do IRL you are probably fucked). That means that there is absolutely nothing wrong with the sound lagging by up to 10-15 seconds from the modeled bolts and light flashing. It would be harder to attenuate the sound depending on the time between flash and rumble if you randomized the (x)(distance) factor.

Didn't one of the expansions have an ambient thunder thing going on anyway? Not too hard to do really if you think about it. One more pass in Light with a _sunlight of 500 or whatever for one or two frames and a rand_sun(x) worldspawn tag. As long as you don't get over 4 dynamic lights (so 3 plus the lightning) even Vanilla Quake should be able to handle that. 

I must agree I totally believe what you say.
My qc attention is less than thunderstood.

When I made my static entity I knew there couldn't be sounds or light attached to it.
Already glad a sprite appeared, now I'm trunked again wanting to add sounds and lights.
The lightstreaks could be animated better.

Ambience thunder relays me a sv_startsound not looped. 

I'm not trying to discourage you. I'm just giving you some input. Thunder would be, in my opinion, a great addition. I'm just looking at the technical difficulties and nothing more. Preach is probably the one to talk to on this. If anyone can hack that into it it's him. 

There's a little trick to make lightning flashes work with light cast from the sky.

void() skyl_stand1 =[ $0, skyl_stand2 ]{lightstyle(0, "z");};

void() skyl_stand2 =[ $0, skyl_stand2 ]{lightstyle(0, "m");};

The light from _sunlight and _sunlight2 etc is always style 0 (in any compiler I've seen anyway). So this will flash all non-animated lights. You might not actually want all your lights to flash - what about indoor ones that shouldn't be affected by the lightning?

Since you can't change the style of the sunlight, the trick is to change the style of all the other lights instead. Give every interior light in your map which doesn't have an animation the targetname "interior". Then make sure to never trigger that targetname. Hey presto, the lightning only affects outside! You can of course use extra lights that "count as" daylight by not setting the targetname on them.

To get the thunderclap, you just need to find a suitable sound effect - one that isn't looping. Then just add

void() skyl_stand3 =[ $2, skyl_stand4 ]
{
��sound(self, CHAN_AUTO, "effects/thunder.wav", 1, 0.01);
}

Lastly, you might want to try something like:

void() skyl_stand8 =[ $7, skyl_stand1 ]
{
��self.nextthink = time + 10.0 + (random()*5);
};

for the delay, so that it's a bit less regular and predictable. 

I'm a bit of a dummy so how would that get plugged into a level? If it's a quake.C thing that's fine but I like to make no assumptions on what someone can or cannot do that aren't using very standard editing setups.

Have you ever thought of writing a new progs.dat with the .fgd to cover it? A re-release of the game if you would. You understand the code at the level of Carmack and what you know probably shouldn't get lost in this little tiny slice of the internet. 

Those were intended to be modifications to the code that MadFox supplied with the model, they would make sense to nobody if you weren't looking at the QC file supplied. The step-by-step would actually be something like

* Get the qc file from MadFox's download
* Add it to a clean quake source file
* (Make the changes I suggested)
* Add skylight.QC to the list of files in progs.src
* Compile the mod

Not too bad, but you do have to get all the qc compiling stuff to do it.

I don't know how much you'd gain from rewriting the progs from scratch; you'd make a bunch of unintentional changes that would annoy people, and probably not get enough benefit in return. My plan is to keep posting things up on the blog to share any good stuff I come up with (and as a teaser I do have a fun bit of code in the works right now!) 

@quaketree - ever since I played the addon pack I had the feeling:
great, thunder but where are the skyflashes.

Now my knowledge lays closer to qc I can make that happen.
Great you give some feedback how to make that happen.
I'm just more dummy to understand how it works if I don't have the strings excact where they belong.

@Preach - Yes, that was the thing I'm looking for. Maybe had to ask it in the modelling post, but now I can tinker on with the code.

The lights were a mystery to me, but that's a neat fix.
I loaded the sound management from necros to see how to add sound, but my compiler failed.

Well, let's see how to make this lightning pak. 

You don't need necros' sound management in this case - that's for sounds that loop continuously without a pause (but that you can stop and start at will). The sound from the thunder can just be played each time the bolt strikes - the crucial difference is that it's ok for the sound to finish and go silent between lightning strikes. So you can just use the single line of code above... 

Right, the sound is great now, just lowered the looptime to 15 sec before it gets annoying.

I see the lightstrike is rather pale, and affects the light by dimming it.
Maybe I shouldn't worry too much about inside light, as long there are windows.

I suppose the light can't be brought back to not-lightned for an instance?

here is the file so far. 

though I think it would have been cool to have the lighting done as the lightning model used in the LG gun... Definitely a cool start though. Couple this with some rain fx (I'm sure there was a mod for that) and you could make a really creepy haunted castle/mansion map 

The line:

lightstyle(0,"z");

is what's leaving the lights on. The letter in the "quotes" is saying how strong the light effect should be. Some examples:

"a" is pitch black
"e" is quite dark
"m" is normal lighting level
"s" is brighter than average
"z" is as bright as you can go.

So in order for the lightning to not be permanent, you need always end on a
lightstyle(0,"m");
not "z" like the current code does. 

@fithelfant - making the tesslacoil I used a bold beam to reach the player. Not so easy to make it a split beam. There is a beamcode in the chtong map, but it excludes doors.

@Preach -I see,
great to see those parms, shouldn't know where to look.
Good to make it go from dimm to bright.
Still it feels a little bleached.

I dug into the SOA code,
it uses a lightning code that can make it fullclear for a moment.
"TheCrypt" has an example, where I expected such eyecandy.
Timing will be a cripple problem with a static entity. 

Updated the the weatherflash with blitz.zip on Quaketastic with sound and scattered light.

Although the framecycle for the sprite is 15,
in game it appears 17-32-47.
So there's a delay of 2 sec.

Trying to use progsref for adding a flash fails going out of pattern.
I think it's because the static entity is apart of the game engine.

Thanks for support, Preach! 

Quaketree - no bandwidth, it was hosted on PlanetQuake, so it took me time to do but no ���. No favouritism either, I didn't know who any mapper was. Just a straightforward desire to promote mapping that was equalling or improving what Id had done. It was a long time ago and I probably went about it in a fairly crude or tactless way but my motives were pure. 

Mechtech - Titan1 looks great, nice strong designs and funky details. I agree the frilly stuff is a bit frilly, I also think some textures could be toned down, but keep this one going for sure.
Titan2 is not my style, it looks like HL1 in the Quake engine. I can see some designs and ideas are cool but I think the style needs to be made more harmonious with Quake and it's monsters.

RingOfQD. Nicely detailed but please just go ahead and make a map!!